Integrateds: Why do they all SUCK?

To Those who dare to give the post their verbal thrashing. Get a life. People have different means and tastes, therefore your ever so mighty talking down to whomever, is not warranted. Don't respond if you don't like it. Bow out of the conversation and butt out. Keep your thoughts and let the others be. 

Sweet Jesus. Rogue, prima luna, line magnetic. And my go to favorite, the LSA statement. These integrateds offer everything and lack nothing. 

New mark levinson integrated very good. So is the moon 600i but no phone.

Good Integrated tube power amps are hard to design and make, except cost no limit amps.
The reason behind this is any power amp with variable gain stage need ladder resistor network or multi section input transformers combined with switches, they are big and expensive. Also, any real highend power amp with high gain stage should have shunt voltage regulator to sound good, which is expensive and takes space due to heat dissapation requirement.
All in all, for optimal cost effective production,it is desired to have seperate preamp and power amp manufactured.

How about my restored Scott 233 and LK72? Vintage tube sound at its best!        Also my Proton 520 SS can kick serious b*tt!