https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFX7aYSWIts&list=PLlO4eQ-H8vrYcuBmzG1a1lKbGjDJDIHuj
And here is the transition -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpmmbhHo2rk
I grew up on this stuff!
Jazz for aficionados
Interesting about Doo Wop. I never considered it a separate category from R&R, rather as a sub-set. But to me it was clearly a contributor to and influence on the development of R&R. This may be original to the style - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFX7aYSWIts&list=PLlO4eQ-H8vrYcuBmzG1a1lKbGjDJDIHuj And here is the transition - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpmmbhHo2rk I grew up on this stuff! |
Wow!!! I just assumed I was the only person on this thread that had ever heard of The Persuasions. Great group. Doo Wop is Rock & Roll for sure. One of my favorites: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPKnHy6i2Wk Cheers |
Now, "All the loud noise, drugs, absurd dress and conduct". For me, that was the description of the '60s. And while I certainly agree with rok that many times with music it covered up a lack of talent, I believe that is too much of an oversimplification. The "loud noise" developed from a couple of things. First, the transition to more electronically amplified instruments. Second, as rock grew in popularity it commanded larger and larger venues for performance, which in turn demanded more electronics. That wasn't only rockers. Young folks were demanding to be heard. Consider the evolution of Dylan. "Drugs" were certainly a contributor to the development of R&R during the '60s. That had been some part of musical development and presentation previously but not to such an extent. But was that not a "chicken and egg" situation of the culture of the times? Tune in and drop out was not a musical expression. Similarly, "absurd dress" was part of the search for identity among young people in the '60s. So dress, speech, and hair (facial and otherwise) were simply outward manifestations of separating youth from their parents. Music and musicians went along with that, but they were far from exclusive. And "conduct" of young people may be considered as an overall manifestation. Free speech, sit-ins, flower power, question authority, don't trust anyone over 30 did not evolve from R&R. Those attitudes utilized music as one other form of expression. The fact that jazz partially evolved during that decade, but still survived intact decades later is a testament to its underlying worth. Can you tell I was young in the '60s? ;^) |
rok, I only have a couple of their albums. Here is one, but I couldn't find a link to the entire record, so this self-explanatory number will have to do - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H16fKUAqm0g |
Great explanation, but it does not change the facts. You told us why they made irritating noises and acted like idiots. Rok's first law of dress codes in Music: The more bizarre, outrageous or revealing the outfits, the less is being said in the music. Think, Miles, pre and post Bitches Brew. Great post. Cheers |