12 days ago you had $5K to invest/spend and now you say you just purchased $22K speakers???
DeKay
DeKay
Waiting on 802D3 to arrive -- Will I need a sub?
Preamp:
· PS Audio BHK Signature Preamplifier
Amplifiers:
· Qty. 2: PassLabs XA60.8 Monoblocks
Inputs:
· PS Audio DirectStream Junior (DAC)
· VPI Traveler 2
· Audio Technica AT33EV Phonograph Cartridge
· Apple TV 4K
Power:
· Qty. 2: PS Audio P5 Power Plant
Other:
· Pro-Ject Tube Box S Phono PreAmplifier
Speakers:
· Bowers-Wilkins 802D3
Years ago when I trained at Sumiko on how to set up speakers, they had a pair of SF Stradivari (rated down to 22Hz) with a REL Studio 3 sub. They played solo violin recorded in a huge venue and all the space of that place along with the emotion of the musical selection was revealed. They then played the same piece of music with the sub disconnected, and the sound completely collapsed to where it just sounded like a nice hi fi. As REL says - It's not about the bass, it's about the space. Plus, no other subs in the industry can be fine tuned to seamlessly blend with main speakers like RELs can. If budget allows, considering your room size, get REL's 212SE, and get 2 if you can afford them. Stereo subs rock! |
If anything you are going to have a challenge to tame the 60Hz resonance peak of +7dB in the bass. A sub may be the least of your problems. https://www.stereophile.com/images/archivesart/1205802fig4.jpg |
@dekay --> yup. Thanks for asking. Best Buy Magnolia bought back the 804d2's I had purchased from them a couple of years back. Couple that with opening a credit line from them with 3 years no interest and a couple of other sweeteners and ... well, I pulled the trigger. So they will pick up the 804d2s when they deliver the 802d3s. To your comment specifically, I still had 5K cash set aside for the preamp which is what the other post was really about (As an update to that I've ordered the PS Audio BHK Signature Preamplifier which has yet to come in). Thanks for everyone's posts today about the subwoofer topic. I did a lot of critical listening today with my DAC connected directly to the Pass Labs feeding my 804d2. They sound a lot better than they did with the emotiva xpa-2 I recently sold. I would describe the sounds as more transparent and warmer. It felt less brassy to me. The low-range of the 804 sounded nice, but they definitely need a sub. It will be interesting for me to see if the 802d3 circumvent that need. I think the advice is solid that I need to just get the 802's setup before deciding if I will need to get new subs. I heard that advice loud and clear and that absolutely makes sense. I'll be sure to report back! Thanks again for the great comments and feedback. It's been truly valuable and most appreciated! |
@shadorne Is that for the 802D3? That scared me a bit, but when I went to the measurements on sterophile, I see a different graph that is a bit flatter. https://www.stereophile.com/images/616BW802fig3.jpg Thanks! |