Speakers "Disappearing"


I have read a lot about speakers "disappearing" so that one can't tell from where the sound is emanating. But, what about all the stereo tunes where the recordiing engineer intentionally pans the music to come from one side or the other? Can the speakers be made to "disappear" in that situation? Or, is it just the nature of the particular recording?
rlb61
@rb61- here’s basic speaker placement steps.  start with 3ft from your wall, move forward until you reach the desired bass. Place your L/R speaker 6ft apart. Your listening chair about 6-8ft away creating a triangle. Make small incremental changes until you have the bass you desire and the main musician is front and center from your listening area. Once dialed in you will have a wall of sound and your speakers will disappear. Remember you cannot fix a bad recording. 

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@bluesy41 ... funny you should mention that method. I was on the Cardas site and came upon his method for speaker placement. It's similar to yours. So, I have each speaker 3' from the side wall, 3' from the back wall, and about 6.5' apart. After measuring, my room is 11'(L)x9'(W)x8'(H). Thank goodness for a laser tape measure. I now have a solid center image and cannot locate sound coming out of either speaker on many recordings. Of course, that also depends on the recording and the engineer's panning preference. All in all, things seem to be working OK, but likely it will remain a work in progress.

Keep in mind that every recording has a different "Recorded Code". So you play a few recordings and the soundstage is fine to you, and there's that next recording that doesn't do so well. It's not that the recording is bad. It's simply that you need to make your adjustments to tune in that code. The more you make your system variable the easier it will be to play any recording.

Michael Green

www.michaelgreenaudio.net

@michaelgreenaudio ... OK, I’ll bite. How does one tune in a "Recorded Code?"
The easiest way is to get a pair of Martin Logans or other ESL or Planar speaker (I haven’t tried the other ESLs or Planars but I’m assuming they can do this). Mine are not positioned symmetrically within the room or within 1/16th of an inch of their ideal position. I just start the music and the sound appears between, behind and outside the speakers with no indication that the speakers are where the music is coming from. They do need some space from the side and back walls, though. It’s a lot harder to do with box speakers.

I first heard this effect when I bought a pair of Apogee Slant 6s years ago. I could stand between them and it would not sound like the music was coming from the speakers.