Jazz for aficionados


Jazz for aficionados

I'm going to review records in my collection, and you'll be able to decide if they're worthy of your collection. These records are what I consider "must haves" for any jazz aficionado, and would be found in their collections. I wont review any record that's not on CD, nor will I review any record if the CD is markedly inferior. Fortunately, I only found 1 case where the CD was markedly inferior to the record.

Our first album is "Moanin" by Art Blakey and The Jazz Messengers. We have Lee Morgan , trumpet; Benney Golson, tenor sax; Bobby Timmons, piano; Jymie merrit, bass; Art Blakey, drums.

The title tune "Moanin" is by Bobby Timmons, it conveys the emotion of the title like no other tune I've ever heard, even better than any words could ever convey. This music pictures a person whose down to his last nickel, and all he can do is "moan".

"Along Came Betty" is a tune by Benny Golson, it reminds me of a Betty I once knew. She was gorgeous with a jazzy personality, and she moved smooth and easy, just like this tune. Somebody find me a time machine! Maybe you knew a Betty.

While the rest of the music is just fine, those are my favorite tunes. Why don't you share your, "must have" jazz albums with us.

Enjoy the music.
orpheus10

nsp, these are some of my speculations in regard to why new jazz just doesn't "wig" me.

I spoke of "origination", which is where the musician, and the listener came from. When they both came from one of the major cities, they were on the same frequency, and communicated. Now that so much, meaning a large part of our major cities no longer exist, it complicates things. Music does not exist in a vacuum.

Clubs in our major cities were where so many jazz artists honed the art of making jazz. Presently, the jazz environment is in a flux. If you look to somebody from the country to produce good jazz after going to a good music school, you might be disappointed.

So many times I hear about how good the artists in the past are compared to today. I've also noticed how today's artists can excel at playing classical, but not jazz, or they can play jazz as long as it's written down. That tells me artists of today, are as good as artists of yesterday, when it comes to their instrument, but they haven't mastered the jazz vocabulary or feel.

The improvising skills required to play good jazz are honed in night clubs with other jazz musicians. If these clubs, and that environment don't exist, the music has to come up short.

In the meantime, while the new jazz musicians work out the kinks, I'll be listening to the old jazz.
pryso-

Quite correct you are about "Birth Of The Cool" That whole affair, although it started around 1949 I believe, so it must be said that was miles first foray outside the bebop stuff, was kind of strange. The nonet, which had revolving musicians and was recorded in over a year I believe, with just a few songs being released as singles until the album was released by Capital Records (11 tracks) in 1957. Not one of my favorites but you are correct in that it was his first "alternate direction"
jafant

Thanks for  informing everyone about Cecil Taylors passing.

acman3
Good representative clip you posted of Cecil Taylor . Here's another with Max Roach ( song is cut short)

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jMfWrTawRSE

orpheus10
Cecil Taylor was a one of a kind spirit who went his own way and carved out a style unlike anyone else. Intense, thought provoking , not for the faint of heart. Some thought he was all noise , no technique, I disagree. Not always easy to listen to but a journey well worth taken.http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5yJWcxzZBVE  

Excellent posts all. nsp makes a key point:

**** I think where this discussion gets bogged down is in STYLISTIC differences. ****

**** that when jazz music changes stylistically that the listener may change how they listen to the music to be able to appreciate what the musicians are attempting to convey. Or to put it another way it takes a different set of ears to absorb and appreciate a new direction. Some people try and they get it , others try and the music does not resonate with them. ****

That point is so important and goes to what I am afraid is an old stereotype.  That of young players and the whole “music school” myth.

**** I've also noticed how today's artists can excel at playing classical, but not jazz, or they can play jazz as long as it's written down. That tells me artists of today, are as good as artists of yesterday, when it comes to their instrument, but they haven't mastered the jazz vocabulary or feel. ****

O-10, I have to respectfully correct you on that point.  I am not sure where or why you have this notion that good players today can play jazz only when it is written down or that they can’t excel at it.  That suggests that they don’t improvise.  It is simply not true and goes to nsp’s point.  It also seems to contradict some of what you have said in your last few posts.  If they are not improvising it is not jazz.  THAT is a given.  They most certainly can improvise; and some do it brilliantly.  They play in a style that apparently does not resonate with you.  That’s fine, but don’t short change them.  If anything, many excellent young players today have absorbed a broader vocabulary than most of the old guard.  It is the style (feel) that is a distillation of all the previous styles that perhaps does not resonate with you.  Moreover, young players today still hone their craft in clubs and jam sessions as they always have.  That is another stereotype.  On a smaller scale than in the past, but on any given night in NYC you can find good jazz at several clubs.  What is different is that in SOME cases they also have a more formal training as instrumentalists.  They can do things on their instruments that many of the older players could not.  That opens a lot of possibilities.  Again, it is the style that is different.  
Something good to listen to while the discussion unfolds...

from "The Music of Eric Von Essen Vol. III" 
Track 4:  It's Just One Big Party
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFeyG91Lg0w

Link to the All Music E.V.E. bio...
https://www.allmusic.com/artist/eric-von-essen-mn0000801306/biography

The All Music Guide review of Vol. III
https://www.allmusic.com/album/the-music-of-eric-von-essen-vol-3-mw0000660394