Zu Druid IV - the real deal?

I have no personal affront with Bartok and am not picking on him as you suggest. I do not question the veracity of his statements. However, my doubts are manifested by the post in this and other threads which indicate, IMO, a lack of experience and knowledge as you pointed out.

Lastly an "eager contributor" of falacious information is by definition a bad contributor IMO. Wouldn't you agree? Don't forget that a lot of folks rely on the information posted here, for better or worse, in making decisions on equipment purchases.

Thank you.

I have a friend, a piano tuner who hears things in my system I can never locate. Joni Mitchell sounds fine to me but he thinks her voice isn't chesty enough. He raves about levels of detail that I'm not sure I hear.
Plainly, the two of us have different levels of acuity or, at the least, difference points of reference or taste. Neither of us is wrong and neither is an expert. Many of the comments I read on this site seem to be very authoritative in tone. In fact, I'm sure some rabid archivist will dredge up something I've written in the past to expose my hypocrisy in mentioning this. This will only illustrate that I too am guilty or have been.
What I'm getting at is the need for all of us to recognize that our values are perceived and our opinions flawed. The sound is what he hear and only what we hear. The notion of an Absolute Sound is poppycock. How can the ephemeral be absolute? Sounds are fleeting no matter how many times we replay them. What we hear varies from moment to moment, mood to mood and person to person.
I find Zu to be unencumbered by the compromises invariably introduced by crossover networks. I also dislike makeup on women. Most guys seem to think it enhances her. To each his own.
I'm glad Skuras likes his Druids. I had the same "right out of the box" experience. In fact, I have read many times now about people who make similar statements. I'm not sure about Chazzbo's 80/20 ratio but I think the ratio of people who have actually listened to them in their own homes and loved them is much closer to 100%.

Audiofeil...

I think that Newbees post was somewhat tongue-in-cheek...at least that's what I got out of it.

How many billions is our national deficit up to now Bartok?

and now...back to your regularly scheduled programming on....

the ZU channel

Audiofeil, Tough place for a newbee to seek advise. Ask a reasonable question and you'll get 10 answers, two of which might happen to be right. When the stars are all alighned the right ones will be well phrased and intelligently presented so the questioner will have his answer. If they are not well phrased or intelligently presented then the questioner will disregard them and any of the other wrong answers similarly presented by others.

What I fear for those seeking to solve problems are well phrased, intelligently presented, thoughtfully considered answers, coming from folks who present themselves as being experienced and knowlegable, which happen to be just plain wrong.

I think Bartockfan's posts present no such problem for any reader.

Warren you are right you don't need me at all but there is a consensus re the speakers that keeps the group cohesive and reassuring to each other. Why interfere?
All Zu issues aside, I think there is a definite break in period for many elements in audio. In the case of amps, caps do dissapate their charge and so does everything else that has them. With out your crossover you miss one part but the flexing of a speakers cones and surrounds does change them IMHO.
So all the low frequencys are driven into the tweeter Um! I didn't think--- in fact a premier speaker builder and master repair person Mr. Bill Legall of Millerspkr, has told me in person that he was annoyed with himself mixing up his external crossover and was certain that the emits on his IRS Vs would have suffered (its not a Zu but they are pretty good speakers)that it is simply not a good idea for the poor tweeter, could you tell me how those frequencies are prevented from getting there? There is no obvious way that these frequencies aren't seen by the tweeter, of course they can't reproduce them but they may be trying, just not a tweeters role in life I guess. BTW the opposite is ok you can subject a woofer to high frequencies but it does no harm apparently Just Curious-