Tekton Double Impacts


Anybody out there heard these??

I have dedicated audio room 14.5x20.5x9 ft.  Currently have Marantz Reference CD/Intergrated paired to Magnepan 1.7's with REL T-7 subs.  For the vast majority of music I love this system.  The only nit pick is that it is lacking/limited in covering say below 35 hz or so.  For the first time actually buzzed the panel with an organ sacd. Bummer.  Thought of upgrading subs to rythmicks but then I will need to high pass the 1.7's.  Really don't want to deal with that approach.

Enter the Double Impacts.  Many interesting things here.  Would certainly have a different set of strengths here.  Dynamics, claimed bottom octave coverage in one package, suspect a good match to current electronics.

I've read all the threads here so we do not need to rehash that.  Just wondering if others out there have FIRST HAND experience with these or other Tekton speakers

Thanks.
corelli
I've putting my Encores through it's paces with a pair of Nord One SE Hypex NC500 400 wpc NCORE based Class D amplifiers and the results have blown me away.  I've been loving the performance with my Diavolo 300b 6 wpc amplifier, but with 400 wpc at my disposal using the Nords the improved dynamics and tremendous bass slam is incredible.  These amps are on the neutral to slightly warm side because of their amazing input buffer stage.  They sound more like my SET amp than different, but the macrodynamics and the bass is truly incredible without giving up anything in microdynamics.  These are nothing like the Double Impact woofers as they are long-throw and not paper cone and they produce some of the most prodigious, cleanest, tightest, and deepest bass I've heard with a few rare exceptions (JBL). They pretty much slaughter the double impacts in that category hands down, it's no contest.

I would love to here the new Pass Labs on these speakers, but that's a down the road dream at this point.

I'm torn that the slight drop in efficiency on these speakers seems to call for more power to get them to really let loose, but I will try my 300b xls tubes and adjust my tube amplifier to output 13wpc and see if double the wattage will recreate something closer to what I'm getting with the Nords in the bass department.  Don't get me wrong, playing Kodo drums is very satisfying even with 6 watts, but theirs a dynamic slam and chest hit that's absent even if all the bass context and texture is intact.  I'll report back soon.  Again, I can't recommend this speaker more if you are in the market for sub $10K speaker!

jcarcopo:

Am very interested in your speaker assessment AND your information about the Nord monos. Bought the Nord Stereo UP version from Colin last year and it was mediocre in my system. After a week one of the channels blew and I went back to an Emotiva monoblock that sounded 10 times more accurate for acoustic instruments and voices.

My question to you deals with tonal weight. One reviewer of the Lyngdorf 2170 repeated my Nord experience: he kept increasing the volume to reach a satisfactory level and never quite got there. It wasn’t because the volume increase wasn't there, it was; it was because the tonal weight for the instruments wasn’t present.

So, my question to you is one I have raised with several others on the Lyngdorf thread: do you feel that the weight (or body) of acoustical instruments is portrayed accurately with the Nord amp? Good instruments to check this are the cello and double bass. Do they sound natural and full?

What is the maker for the Encore woofers? Am a bit unsure about 11 inch drivers. Is this one available on the market if you blow one?

As mentioned above, have just upgraded to one of the last Emotiva XPA-1s and it has 60 watts class A and 1000 watts class A/B. The DIs do incredibly well with these amps and they draw, easily, 500 watts on large orchestral crescendos.

So I second your description of the value of plenty of power.

@craigl59 I purchased the Nord One SE UP NC500MB Monoblocks for about $2800.00 with both Op-Amps for each monoblock a few months ago from Colin; a very nice chap to do business with. I tried both op-amp input buffer boards and ended up preferring the Sparkos Lab version over Sonic Imagery op-amp board. The Sparkos was more dynamic and less veiled while still retaining a slightly warm sound signature that I prefer whereas the Sonic Imagery felt like the additional added warmth was getting in the way of the music. I sent these amps to my audiophile friend in California to try out as an alternative to him running Threshold CLASS-A monoblocks and he enjoyed them, but ultimately said he felt they were slightly 2 dimensional in comparison to some older Class A Pass Labs monoblocks he had also just recently inherited (What a lucky guy!). The reason for this experiment was to see how they fared against some very formidable Class A amplifier competition. In the end he liked them compared to his Thresholds, but not as much as the newly acquired used pair of single-ended Pass Labs Monoblocks which have a very magical sound quality that is hard for many amplifiers to best and that I witnessed first hand while visiting him a few weeks ago while traveling back to CA to see my friends on the west coast. He was hoping the Nords would be good enough so he wouldn’t have to contend with the heat, hvac, and overall higher electric bill from running the Class A amps round the clock for extended periods to keep them sounding at their best. He’s retired and on a fixed income, in poor health, and electricity costs in California has got to be the biggest ripoff in the nation for electricity rates. I was very adamant that he keep the Pass Labs over his Thresholds and that he not give them back to his friend because he felt they were better than his friend’s Bryston amps (4 pairs of the biggest ones they make). He felt guilty keeping amps that were better sounding to the both of us, but luckily the other mutual friend was adamant that he keep them and that he would buy more new pass lab amps in due time. BUT, I DIGRESS...Terribly sorry for that, but I figured a little back-story might be helpful!

To your point, when I compare the sound I had from my Art Audio 300b Tube Amplifier to the Nords they sound more close than different and it’s hard to discern a clear deficiency tonally, but they definitely slaughter the tube amp in the dynamics and weight/bass department. There’s a bloom the tube amp has that is missing from the Nords, but I really don’t notice much if any deficiency in tonal weight of instruments and maybe my tube bias for flea powered amplifiers color my assessment to a degree. I do use judicious amounts of EQ to correct for any room anomalies of which there are very few in my very modest sized 16’x14’ room which limits how far I can pull the speakers away from the wall (about 2’) and my listening position which is relatively nearfield and about 2’ from the back wall. I would say in my system with the Encores I’m just enthralled with the sound that I am getting and unless I could spring for a pair of Pass Lab monoblocks, I feel very content with where my system is at sonically which may very well be that the Encores are just so damn good sounding over my double impacts that I’m on a bit of a honeymoon period and am not being critical enough to discern much of an issue with tonal weight presently. I really think I may just be lucky with a room, amp, speaker, DSP, and total system synergy that it is very satisfying to my ears, but maybe I will be more critical of the sound over the next few months and change my opinion at a later date. I’m just having a ball listening to music and enjoying myself immensely at this point. Hope that helps you some. I know it’s not much to go on.  Edit:  I do not know the OEM for the bass drivers, but they are quite impressive sounding.  

jcarcopo:

Thanks for your excellent response and the time it took: the thread continues to work.

Had exactly the same experience with the Nord opamps and would have kept the unit had the left channel not died. Colin is a fine professional and refunded the entire purchase price.

BUT, AGAIN, when I went back to my earlier monoblocks I was shocked at the difference in timbral accuracy. Sounds as if your CA friend had a similar, but less strong, experience.

The Pass labs amps are highly touted but I have used Emotiva amps for years in the home and studio and the few complaints levied against them -- too bright, too accurate -- are pluses for me.

My next audio project is to upgrade the speakers in my winter home -- currently am using there the Emotiva T1/C1/E1 5 channel set. They’re great for the money but Tekton speakers are a whole ’nother league.

SO YOUR COMMENTS about the Encore are very helpful and my approach is to base purchase decisions on owners who report actual experiences. In this area your posts are extremely helpful.

Perhaps Eric, or one of his helpers, will post the specific bass and midrange speakers he uses for the Ulfberhts and Encores. This is a big plus for those of us who want to ensure we can replace blown transducers down the road. Have identified the ScanSpeak tweeters he uses and they are available from Madisound.

I love the seven tweeters. They do so remind me of the good old days and the Bose 901's. If only we had two more tweeters.