Advice and help understanding, choosing a Widebander / Single Full Range Driver speaker?
I have Voxativ 5" AF2.6 in DIY enclosures - supplemented with a single REL S/5 SHO. In an open (non treated) listening room, nearfield ...they are fantastic. Over the past year, I matched the internal wiring to be same as my speaker leads (AP SilverOval2); I added Furutech 865 wirewound posts; I added BatPro2 super tweeters and GAIA footers. Basically, I now have the artists in my room. Sure, i've heard what more linear speakers sound like (>$35k) and have (maybe) been convinced that whizzer cones color the sound ...but single drivers are magical for convincing staging and voxativ are unmatched for timbre and transparency. And i only need 30watts to drive these. If you dont want to go full DIY, Voxativ now has their FIT product (five inch tower) that can be optioned to have the AF2.6 driver for under $6k. And you can buy a used REL for under $2k. Cables, supertweeter and footers bring the price to about $10k. If you dont need to fill a hall-sized room, this is the way to go, IMO. |
When I’m the NY area make an appointment with Charney Audio in Somersett NJ. About 30-45 mins from midtown depending on traffic, and 10 min from Newark Liberty. All of Charney’s horns are true full range single driver designs that incorporate drivers from Omega, Lowther, Voxativ, and AER. No crossovers! No sub needed! That deliver in all the areas you are listening for! Clear noncongested engaging sound! He will be at Capital Audiofest in November. http://charneyaudio.com/ |
The Charney system I heard with Voxativ driver sounded very good for a full-range dynamic driver system. To me, the only short-coming is that the top end is not fully extended. I recently heard an open baffle system using a full-range G.I.P. field coil driver--a replica of the Western Electric 4165A driver--and this was the finest sound I've heard from a full-range system. But, the system actually has a tweeter that can be turned on and off to compare full-range to two-way. The tweeter is crossed in very high (more like a super tweeter) with a simple resistor-capacitor network (1st order crossover) and an L-pad to adjust level). I preferred the sound with the tweeter operating. The G.I.P. driver is extremely expensive, but better than any other full range driver I've heard. I also like the vintage Jensen/ERPI M-10 field coil driver used as an extended range driver (i.e., with a tweeter). Horning makes some very dynamic and exciting systems using full range drivers as bass/midrange drivers and add a tweeter. I like these systems too, although they are a touch bright and a little harsh sounding for my taste. On the MUCH cheaper side, Rethm makes a speaker named the Bhaava that is essentially a full range driver augmented by a built-in, powered subwoofer; a great sounding system for the money (around $3,000). |
https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/whizzer-cone-removal/post?postid=1584914#1584914 please take a look, My experience with design loudspeakers based on widebanddrivers say --- impossible to get good highs with whizzer cone. The best way is not just understand this and accepted or not, Just listen i with AB comparison on the same record. What is whizzer .Is just piece of paper How it been compare with new technologies tweeters? Historically whizzer cone drivers widely used in Pro sound starting long time ago. in Cinema theaters , and for some reason came up in High End. in |
