How much does vinyl formulation have an influence on overall sound?


Sometimes i wonder if what we hear regardless if its a digital recording on vinyl or analog on vinyl, how much does the actual formulation have to do with overall sound quality.  I am beginning to think a lot.  Interested with your thoughts on this
tzh21y
I’ve often wondered about this as well. It might be one of the possible explanations of sonic differences between different copies of the same record (sometimes even with the same matrix numbers). But there are probably too many other variables to make valid judgement calls.

However, there’s one possible case where most variables don’t apply. As most jazz vinyl collectors know all ’original’ Blue Note records were pressed by the Plastylite company. They were renowned for their pressing and sound quality and can be easily recognized by the so called ’ear’ in the run out grooves (in fact an inverted & stylized P). When Blue Note was sold to Liberty in the mid 60’s the pressing arrangement with Plastylite was cancelled and manufacturing immediately went to Liberty’s own pressing facility in New Jersey (and thus no more ’ear’). But the new owner continued to use the same plates mastered by Van Gelder, so any sonic difference between the Plastylites and Liberty’s can be attributed to the different pressing facilities, each using different stamper machines and procedures. And - most likely - a different vinyl compound.

I’ve compared these pressings of many Blue Note titles and have been unable to detect any sonic difference. This might be of interest to some of you, because there is a huge and still widening price gap between Plastylite and early Liberty pressings of the same titles. If sound quality is your main target (apart from the music itself of course) and not the possession of an ’earliest pressing’ trophy, you can save a lot of money without sonic penalty by getting these Liberty’s. As prices of the Plastylites have gone insane, the Liberty’s are picking up in value as well. On eBay they’re currently being offered less often than the Plastylites, which suggests to me dealers are hoarding. Within a year I expect to see an avalanche of Liberty’s at Plastylite prices......

Anyway, in my humble opinion the sonic impact of the vinyl compound itself is negligable and indeed a narrow corridor for choosing your records.
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Another point is how many plays they will tolerate without significant deterioration. I do treat then with LAST so I may never know.
Interesting to compare original US Bitches Brew by Miles Davis and first release Japanese. Japanese vinyl is definitely quieter and EQ is better overall, at least for my taste, but Miles's trumpet has a little more power and presence in the US version. I listen to them both.
I agree with @whart on the old JVC vinyl. Looking forward to my Marvin Gaye pressed on the latest vinyl formulation from MOFI. Hopefully it won’t disappoint.

Regarding QRP, there vinyl formulation (may ?) be quiet, their pressing quality leaves much to be desired, especially after the big press releases vs. the end product. SQ is mostly very good but overall, I’d say it’s a big disappointment.
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Thinking about this brought back memories of years ago... I either started a thread or just posted about an idea for an across the board high quality vinyl formulation that every manufacturer would have to use. The premise being...that for the end user, we'd have the best vinyl available at all times. The only difference between record labels would be the recording quality. This fund would go toward one goal only...to have and invest in the absolute best vinyl formulation possible.

A fund could be started by the record labels with what they'd normally spend on vinyl. Then maybe, the end user would, pay a slight premium or be on a subscription service basis for vinyl purchases w/ some of those proceeds going into the fund for quality vinyl formulation. I'm just throwing out ideas here folks. But I think if there was a uniform quality vinyl formulation that was required for all records made, we'd be in better shape.