How important is it for you to attain a holographic image?


I’m wondering how many A’goners consider a holographic image a must for them to enjoy their systems?  Also, how many achieve this effect on a majority of recordings?
Is good soundstaging enough, or must a three dimensional image be attained in all cases.  Indeed, is it possible to always achieve it?

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Hey Gang,

So this past weekend I heard a 3 piece mexican acoustic band at a restaurant. A harpist, guitar, and something that looked like a very fat guitar, called a guitarron.

Interestingly, I could place the harp and guitar, but not the guitarron. I was looking right at them, about 15' away.

Also, it reset my expectation for what 3D sound is like in real life. I still like my original statements: Live music is not that holographic, but we may sure like it. :)

E
erik,

I just find this so weird. My experience is different. Just a couple weeks ago I encountered two different small bands playing on the sidewalk in my city. One was acoustic guitar, stand up bass and a sax.

Other was larger, drums, tuba, trumpet, sax, electric guitar and I think trombone.


In both cases when I closed my eyes the musicians were distinctly "imaged and soundstaged" with obvious localization.

And I find that typical when I hear live acoustic music.
(As in for instance some of the pubs near me where live acoustic music is played - in particular Irish instrumentals, vocals etc)


Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying there's NO imaging. lots have studies have proven our ear/brain mechanism along with HRTF can localize objects in a 3D space!!

I'm just saying, I've heard speakers do it MORE than real.

The Guitarron was really interesting because even though it is a plucked instrument, it's sound is pretty low, as low as a double bass to my ears.

Best,
E
The best imaging I've ever heard however was from a HT system running Neo6 in music mode.

It filled in the center very nicely.

For me, there has been nothing more important; when it appeared in my listening room, I knew everything else was together.

It is impossible to get a good holographic image without top notch electronics, that let me know that I not only had high end components, but high end sound as well.

While it varies from record to record, the essence of depth and 3D is always there.