Audacy room correction. Corrected?



has anyone tried using the auto room correction feature on their receiver with out board amps attached?

I saw another thread recently about someone who bought an Audacy audio room correction/equalizer component as their gear did not have that facility built into their receiver. The person was quite impressed with the benefits once all the position testing and correction process was completed.

My Onkyo TX SR 805 has this auto room correction feature on board.

However, when I called to ask Onkyo about using the Audacy room correction feature in my own application, were I to use outboard amps, the tech (s) I spoke with said

"The Audacy (Audessey) feature does not work with auxilliary amps. Only when the 805 is connected directly to the speakers."

Hearing this info from a couple of Onkyo techs early on in my ownership, and prior to adding those amps, I dismissed the use of that benefit entirely, and never tried to use it.

So I was curious and emailed Audacy after perusing their website for more info on one of their room corection devices for myself. I told them of my situation, gear, and the info Onkyo tech support had provided me and was surprised to see them reply with this info:

“The Audessy feature on your 805 will work with or without outboard amps being connected to it. They also apologized for the misinformation.

Really? Whoa!?

Lovely. My problem now is having mislaid my micI can’t even find out for myself. lol

Audacy also said the mic supplied with the recievers was specific to the room correction system, therefore obtaining a better aftermarket mic would not perform as well. Their process is calibrated to the supplied mic. Further, they said the mic wire itself could be extended up to 25ft. Past that overall length they could not assure the results would be predictable.

Hmmm.

Do Other owners of Onkyo, Marantz, etc., receivers with this Audacy benefit built in, also hear such misinfomation about their Audacy supplied units not being capable of room correction in conjunction with out board amps too?

Has anyone tried to use the feature while amps were connected to their receiver?

Neither have I seen mention of this in any reviews on such featured receivers.

Now, if I can just find my mic!

Thanks. Hope this helps.
blindjim
First, I apologize for assuming otherwise as I did not take your handle literally. I will try to write more carefully.

A preamp/processor is, virtually, an A/V receiver without amps and, therefore, a device which works only with external amps. This is similar to the operation you propose.

I do appreciate your dissatisfaction with factory telephone service reps but many of us have learned to take their comments with a grain of salt. Most are reading from scripts and do not really know anything technical.

My suggestion that you "find the mic and do it" was meant to encourage you to run Audyssey because I believe it will make a huge improvement in virtually any system or room. My post was serious but,unfortunately, was not written with a full understanding of your situation. Consulting those links will be tedious but the actual procedure is described in detail. It includes specific guidelines for mic placement which is critical. If you were a neighbor, I would volunteer to help as I have done it many times with several different types of equipment. This makes me fairly adept at it but it also makes me respect the difficulties.

Here are some important points:
1. The mic should be on a mic stand or tripod so that there are no large objects (walls, cushions, human bodies, etc.) close to it.
2. It must be pointed straight up to the ceiling and sit at the same height as your ears and/or your tweeters.
3. The first mic position must be at your listening seat and the others should be at least 2 feet away but never wider than the positions of your main left and right speakers.
4. None of the mic positions should be within 2 feet of a wall or other large reflective surface.

There's lots more in the guide posted at AVSforum.

Kal
Kal

Thanks for the links.

I apologize. My issues with authority are a greater issue than is my being ‘hard of seeing’. I had already mentioned I was seeking out my mic so reading your list of instructions, and that of finding it, and using it got to me a bit. I took the note (s) as dictatorial and shouldn’t have. I attached a tone to your post I regret. Further, I seldom mention my predicament and should not have here. I expect nothing anyone else shouldn’t as a rule.

I appreciate the links and yes, pursuing them fully is tedious at best. I usually glean that which is sought. Eventually.

I'll take the technical assertion under advisement. I had hoped or believed their 'scripts' were more in depth than my owners manual provided me.

My mention of your run on spelling of both words, preamp & processors, was my knock on your pointing out I messed up 'Audyssey'. I'll aim my spelling eye, better next time.

The ‘Tips’ are welcome too.
I appreciate the reply, Jim. Let me know if there's anything else I can help with.

Kal
Jim- You are a real stand up kinda' guy. Kudos to you.
Kal- You are too.
Kal- In response to your "I am surprised..." after reading your tips I realized I did tip #'s 3 & 4 as you suggest not to do. I re-do my calibrating and see what I think.
Srwooten-

Those are only the highlights of the recommendations in the guide. It was based on the comments and experiences of many users and vetted by the CTO of Audyssey. It is worth a read for anyone using Audyssey.

Kal