My experience adding subwoofers to 2 channel

@mijostyn I've heard the direct drive version- that speaker never seemed to bring home the bacon the way the one did that was easily driven by the M-60s (which replaced an ARC Classic 60; this was a good 15 years ago).
I wish I knew which model that was as I've heard Acoustats that looked just like it but needed a big amp to make them play. The first time I heard an Acoustat though I was very surprised at how well our amps and the speakers worked together. IMO they worked quite a bit better than the Quads, which at the time were also easy to drive.

By comparison the direct drive model had a bit of a trashy sound on top and we got better bass with the regular speaker (it had no hint of trashiness!). But I think there was a good possibility the power tubes in the direct drive model I heard were simply shot. That was a tricky speaker- you really had to be careful around it due to the very high plate voltage on the power tubes.

Of course I've heard Sound Labs many times. Something like 80% of all our MA-2 amplifier production has gone to Sound Lab owners.

@clio09, thanks for the correction and clarification.

Clio for $12,000 as listed on Roger’s web site does that include the amps? Why doesn’t he put a page up for the speakers and all the other neat stuff he makes like the 300 watt mono amps?

Atmasphere, those amps got damn hot. They were also easy to over drive if you did not cross to a sub. They hated doing bass. The best sound I got out of unmodded Acoustats was 2 + 2s driven by KMA 100s. They even did bass! I got rid of Acoustat’s interface and hooked up one huge 1:100 Sowter transformer which is crazy to drive but boy do they sound great. Yes, Soundlab owners love your amps. The question is should I do MA-2s or MA-3s:)

@mijostyn, yes that includes the direct drive amps and bass amp with active crossover. As for why it's not on the website the main reason that Roger doesn't have the time to bother with it.

@clio09, are you sure the $12,000 price is with the d-d amps? I stated that a few months ago in another thread, and you informed me that was incorrect, the $12k was for the panels and subs, the d-d amps were an added-cost option. If the price includes the amps, that is quite the bargain!