Dealers and exaggerated treble


I've been thinking about some negative experiences I've had at dealers over the past few years. I don't mean the dealer's were unpleasant, they were not. I mean that I heard bad sound.


In a lot of those cases, the treble was exaggerated, or harsh to me.


I'm wondering, have you ever heard really bad treble at a dealer, but then you hear the speakers elsewhere and they seem fine?
erik_squires


Can't say I've noticed this, myself.
But then I'm usual active in my speaker auditioning: if not asking for a particular position for the speakers, then ensuring I experiment with my seating position to get the best, smoothest sound I can hear from the set up.
I drove over there(never had, prior) and looked around, finding a graphic EQ, far removed(on another shelf) from the system),


THAT is exactly the sort of BS I'm talking about.

What got me thinking of this is that there's a couple of brands I've heard and hated as ear drills, which others call sublime. Golden Ear, Jim Thiel era Thiels, etc.

I recently had the experience of walking into a Wilson dealer and hearing the speaker cables reversed. When that was fixed, the treble was still nasty hot. Several Wilsons have configurable crossovers which lets you turn the relative level of the tweeters up or down, so this was a case where it would have been impossible to tell if they were altered without tools.


I heard Magico's at another local dealer and I winced at the presence. I literally could not listen to them. 

I'm also thinking about other dealers who would not let me play my own music.


Using digital servers it is super easy to juice music tracks. You equalize them before saving them to your music server, and voila, you magically have detail you've never heard at home before. 

So, overall, I'm wondering:


- how much of my opinion about brands has been shaped by bad dealer setups
- How many consumers of high end gear are easily duped by it.  I mean, if the dealers lost money doing this they would stop, right?
@erik_squires ,
- How many consumers of high end gear are easily duped by it.
I think a large chunk of those with disposable wealth will be victims of dealer deceit, but mostly from their belief that paying more equates with getting the 'best'- All done without listening beforehand.

I pretty much gave up on Dealers after my experiences with them during the 80's. Luckily, I found John Rutan here on Audiogon.
(This isn't supposed to be a plug, but just that I finally found a dealer who not only knows his stuff, but is honest).
Bob
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I've been in a Bang & Olufsen dealer once and he showed me, for some minutes, their BeoLab 90 active speakers, ones that cost about 80.000 euros, and the sounded very bad, what a dissapointment.
The whole system costed more than 100k euros and my much much modest system was much better.
I guess some dealers dont know about how high end speakers should sound, I really dont know the answer because you can not sell multi thousand dollars system and not know how to install and voiced them to the room. Its incredible.