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Need advice in Audio Research Classic C-60Amp

I just purchased a classic C-60 to pair with my old Vandersteen 2CE’s.

Right now I’m just using Blue Jeans biamped speaker cable terminated in spades on the amp end. The classic only excepts wire that are screwed in on the back of the app. This means I’m going to have to cut the ends off the spades, and because it is Bi-amped I’ll then have two positives wires and two negatives  going to one channel. 

So my options are to just not use one of each color (one red one black) or twist the two reds together and twist to blacks together.  My question is what is the best way to attach the wire to the amp. Do I need to buy a different type of termination or is it just the bare wire that gets screwed in. And how do you think I should go about doing this with the wire I have. 

Also one follow-up question, if I just cut one black wire and one red wire from the spade, and tape them up, is there anything I should be worried about, sonically?
last_lemming
last_lemming OP
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@djohn 
I was considering trying to change the caps myself.  I've done very little soldering in all actuality, but I am pretty hand and have good dexterity in small spaces.  To that end I've been watching all manner of youtube vids on the subject and I was going to go find some old broken gear and start practicing on it in hopes of trying to do this myself, but I might be kidding myself.

I will call to get a price on having this done for me.  

This is going in my secondary system so it's not a rush job for me.


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last_lemming

You have a great amp there.

I’ve owned an ARC Classic 60 for 30 years and still keep it in reserve as a spare amp. I used it with an ARC SP-14. Then, I used it with my current ARC REF-3. It went into the "spare" designation when I got the REF-75se.

Over the years, I’ve used nothing but spade lugs on this amp. Larger lugs can be a pain, but smaller ones will fit, albeit with bloody knuckles at times.

If I were going to use the amp full time, I’d take it to a tech and have him remove the fins surrounding the speaker connections, and install Cardas pure copper binding posts and Cardas copper female RCA connections for the ICs. In addition, I would have the tech install a power cord input so I could use an aftermarket power cord. Have the tech measure the large caps. Replace if necessary. Not that expensive, really. You’ll be surprised at how good this amp is.

Frank
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I called Mr Scott Frankland, nice fellow, and spoke with him about work that could be done on the Classic 60.  He indicated that the 4 caps aren’t soldered in, but screw in. So, in preparation of getting the amp I have purchased 4 Kemet capacitors that are a direct fit for the Classic 60.  But with a bit more overhead.

On Scott’s recommendation I purchased a variable voltage transformer to slowly bring the voltage up once the new caps are plugged in to make sure the electrolytics disperse evenly.  He highly suggested I do this, so I am.

my question is after the new caps are in and the amp has been brought up to power do I need to rebias the tubes, or is that only necessary if the tubes are replaced?
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dweller
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I'm sure it wouldn't hurt and you need to do it when you install new tubes (tube life is about two years with moderate use). Also, probably a good idea to check bias every six months just to make sure tubes are still working. I traded my Classic 60 in on a new VT-100 Mk-I in the mid 90s. I got a call from the dealer who told me one of the tubes was dead and had blown some kind of resister. I was totally unaware of the problem and offered to compensate him but he graciously declined.
last_lemming OP
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Got the amp!  Damn thing is HEAVY. 

So I plugged it in and went to listen to each tweeter to see if there was audible hum - ear right up to it - NOTHING - ZERO NOISE!!  No hiss or hum at all. I thought hmmm , maybe it’s broke, nope it’s just that quite.  Music sounds wonderful. I can’t tell if the caps have been changed. What color are the stock caps color? Mine are blue.  

As far as being able to connect to the screw type speaker connectors on the back of the amp, I ended up cutting one of the legs off my speaker cables spade termination. This narrowed the spade width just enough to just fit between the fins of the amps speaker connectors   Snug too. Don’t worry about the speaker cables too much, there just old Blue Jeans cable, so no house mortgage was harmed. 
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