Hear my Cartridges....🎶


Many Forums have a 'Show your Turntables' Thread or 'Show your Cartridges' Thread but that's just 'eye-candy'.... These days, it's possible to see and HEAR your turntables/arms and cartridges via YouTube videos.
Peter Breuninger does it on his AV Showrooms Site and Michael Fremer does it with high-res digital files made from his analogue front ends.
Now Fremer claims that the 'sound' on his high-res digital files captures the complex, ephemeral nuances and differences that he hears directly from the analogue equipment in his room.
That may well be....when he plays it through the rest of his high-end setup 😎
But when I play his files through my humble iMac speakers or even worse.....my iPad speakers.....they sound no more convincing than the YouTube videos produced by Breuninger.
Of course YouTube videos struggle to capture 'soundstage' (side to side and front to back) and obviously can't reproduce the effects of the lowest octaves out of subwoofers.....but.....they can sometimes give a reasonably accurate IMPRESSION of the overall sound of a system.

With that in mind.....see if any of you can distinguish the differences between some of my vintage (and modern) cartridges.
VICTOR X1
This cartridge is the pinnacle of the Victor MM designs and has a Shibata stylus on a beryllium cantilever. Almost impossible to find these days with its original Victor stylus assembly but if you are lucky enough to do so.....be prepared to pay over US$1000.....🤪
VICTOR 4MD-X1
This cartridge is down the ladder from the X1 but still has a Shibata stylus (don't know if the cantilever is beryllium?)
This cartridge was designed for 4-Channel reproduction and so has a wide frequency response 10Hz-60KHz.
Easier to find than the X1 but a lot cheaper (I got this one for US$130).
AUDIO TECHNICA AT ML180 OCC
Top of the line MM cartridge from Audio Technica with Microline Stylus on Gold-Plated Boron Tube cantilever.
Expensive if you can find one....think US$1000.

I will be interested if people can hear any differences in these three vintage MM cartridges....
Then I might post some vintage MMs against vintage and MODERN LOMC cartridges.....🤗
128x128halcro
I have three well-sorted Deccas and enjoy them. Recently, I bought an Audio Technica 750 with Shibata tip as it was highly recommended and I needed something for a second table. It does have seemingly better depth and sometimes more air. However, it is not as fast on transients as the Deccas. Consequently, when I do play a record with it, I feel as if something is fundamentally wrong with the presentation of the idea of the music. And, no matter what, I cannot use it for critical listening.  I was going to send it back but...we collect things, and there's always background music!
Dear Halcro,
my beloved Mono is a Koetsu Coralstone.

i am not as good in visualization than you, and i do not have as many MMs as you. So true! 😂

best
E.

Thank you Halcro 
for starting a very enjoyable and informative forum discusion .

So I have a question for the highly experienced and knowledgeable memebers ,  have you noticed liking or enjoying a certain
stylist shape or cantilever material ?

My limited experience has been with Grado only ,
a used MZ that came with the TT , then a used Gold , an estate sale Sonata ( new ! ) and what I am going to replace a Reference Master
( new and discounted  after the V2 came out ) .
All with eliptical stylist and aluminum cantilevers .

Thanks
Rob


****  I feel as if something is fundamentally wrong with the presentation of the idea of the music ****

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Oh how wonderful the LDR sounds in MONO....when there's no sound-staging issues 🤗
I am completely "immersed, astounded, moved and left shaking my head in disbelief at what I am hearing in my own room....."
I didn't know Frogman, that Ray could even PLAY saxophone let alone be so good at it...?!
I'm glad you all confirm that it is really "no contest" 👊
The beauty of the LDR is just so evident!

So when I began listening to the AT-33MONO five years ago......it became evident that it brought nothing special to the presentation of 'mono' recordings in my system.
And then I realised how 'stupid' the whole idea of buying a 'mono' cartridge was in my particular situation...🤪
Here I was, buying and testing nearly 100 cartridges (both new and old), MM, MI and LOMC...searching for the elusive 'PERFECT' cartridge and discarding nearly 80 of them.
How could I then, insert a cheap ($400) Audio Technica LOMC and just ACCEPT the 'sound signature' it possesses.....just because it was 'mono'??
Apart from this comparison....I have not played it since 🥳