Any monitors clearly better than Pulsars?


After some recent amp and preamp upgrades, I'm wondering if it's possible to push further on my speakers.

Right now, I'm running Joseph Audio Pulsars, which I enjoy thoroughly. Because I live in an apartment, floorstanders are out of the question, and I know the Pulsars are some of the best monitors around.

My question is: are there any monitors that are clearly head and shoulders above the Pulsars, which might be worth a listen? Budget-wise, I could probably go up to $12k used.

In terms of what I'm looking there, really there is nothing specific. I'd say the same about upgrading from the LS26 to the REF 5SE; I wasn't looking for anything specific there, but the 5SE is clearly better :)

That said, I'd be hoping to find a speaker that is clearly an upgrade. If any other monitor would be a minor step up, or more of a lateral move, then I'm happy standing pat with the Pulsars.
rrolack
Prof,

Op question is: " any-monitors-clearly-better-than-pulsars"

as I find the pulsar very limited in bass extension or bass punch, and find the imagize size giving a very small window, Ive recommended:
805 D3 and Harbeth 30.2 which I think are clearly better then Pulsar.



murphythecat,


We all have our preferences.

I'm familiar with the Harbeth 30.2 (auditioned it, heard it many times) and owned the Harbeth SuperHL5plus.

I love Harbeth, but wouldn't put the 30.2 above the Pulsar at all, certainly NOT for bass punch and extension. I mean, the Harbeth is rated only down to 50Hz and the Pulsar down to 42Hz.  The stereophile measurements clearly show the Pulsar's bass extension beating the Harbeth 30.  So I'm confused as to why that's making your recommendation "because the Pulsars don't have the punch/bass extension.'

The Pulsar even measures deeper bass extension than your recommended 805 D3!

And...again...the Pulsars have virtually made their name on putting out more, and better bass than most monitors.

So, all I can say it that your perspective is pretty anomalous on this issue.  Maybe it's what you perceived upon hearing the Pulsars in a certain set up, but there's more objective evidence that your recommendations don't exactly make sense in light of your critique of the Pulsar.






What about the Ryan S610?

It's a pity Ryan is not more mentioned and doesn't have/get more visibility.
I haven't heard all the competing speakers that are about the same size as the Pulsar but it's very hard to beat the bass on the Seas 5.5in magnesium woofer.  I could think a couple of drivers from ScanSpeak such as either the 5.5in Revelator or the Illuminator or the Accuton ceramic, but other than that, I can't think of any.  But even then, they would be very close in term of bass output.

My only beef with the Pulsars is that, given all the praises, after reading the Stereophile review of the Pulsars, the designer advertised that he uses something called "Asymmetrical Infinite Slope circuit" for his xover.  OK, there is no such thing.  There is no "Infinite slope".  Cross over technology has been around since Edison invented the light bulb.  There is nothing new.  There is no need for the designer to resort to these type of marketing sleight of hand.  It cheapens his credibility.  It probably comes down to the woofer uses 2nd order and the tweeter using 3rd order to align the phase of both drivers hence the term "asymmetric" vs. "symmetric" in which the order of both the woofer and tweeter have the same filter order.   Using Asymmetric technique is actually a compromised approach since in order to use "Symmetric", the designer will need to rework the baffle geometry.

And with all due respect to the designer, the woofer and tweeter on the Pulsars are probably top ten drivers in the world.  So 80% of the goodness in the sound probably comes from the drivers by themselves.  He then just slapped on the xover and claimed all the credits :-)