You've tried other amps and ended with Pass, please discuss


So I'm genuinely curious about this, and I'd like your thoughts.

You: Are a current pass owner who has tried a number of other amps and stuck with Pass.

Please discuss your speakers, your pass and what other amps you feel your current set up bested.

I won't opine, but may ask questions to those who are not specific enough.
One thing I've heard a lot is the terms "refined." I don't know what this means, so if you can compare to other amps with more detail, would appreciate that.
Thanks!

Erik
erik_squires
Hi Eric,  I've owned a number of higher-end pieces of equipment from various Mfg.'s over the years (decades), all with their specific sonic signature.  As my listening and music tastes evolved, I found myself with fairly efficient (93-db 6-ohm nominal) speakers and have delighted in the micro and macro detail using a very dynamic SET 300-B amp and more recently a SIT-2 First-Watt amp.  Both the SET amp and SIT-2 give me great detail from bass to treble and a wide and deep believable sound-stage.  My listening is mostly to small well-recorded ensembles, male and especially female vocalists with a few instrument backup and jazz.  I have not had any other amps that I've experienced give me the "you're there" feeling and realism than the SET and SIT-2 amps have done.  The SET is slightly smoother than the SIT-2 however both in my opinion are equally-accurate.  While for most of my listening, both of these amps are great, there are times that I do want a little more headroom for my louder listening (rock and some jazz).  I love the SIT-2 Nelson Pass design so much that I wanted to try the XA30.8 stereo Pass-Labs amp...  Since Reno Hi-Fi has such a great return policy, I felt that this would be a good opportunity to try one of his amps with more guts.  I was not disappointed !  While the 30.8 is not quite as micro-detailed as the SET or SIT-2 amps (I'm splitting hairs now) I am thoroughly impressed with this amp from every aspect especially macro-dynamics.  With my 93-db 6-ohm speakers, they never seem to run out of "gas" or even strain with loudly-played music.  If I can say anything about it, it's greatly under-rated, power-wise !  One thing you must do though is give the amp at least 5 full-days of turn-on time (nothing needs to be playing) before the amp sounds terrific.  It needs that break-in time.  This amp tends to have a smooth, slightly warm sound that would give you a sonic impression similar to that of an accurate tube-amp.  It's an amp that I could certainly live with if I didn't have the SET or SIT-02, however I'm glad that I have all three !  Nelson Pass has done a great job of designing this amp and I'd venture to say that the rest of that XA line would be terrific, should you need more power than 30 Class-A WPC.  If you decide to buy Pass-Labs or First-Watt, give Mark @ Reno Hi-Fi a call.  Terrific information, customer service and prices !  

Respectfully, 
John
  One thing you must do though is give the amp at least 5 full-days of turn-on time (nothing needs to be playing) before the amp sounds terrific.


Well, that's interesting for two reasons:

1 - Some Class Ds do exactly this, wonder what the commonality is?

2 - I wonder how many Pass amps I heard in San Francisco had never been able to warm up fully?

Best,
E


tleddy
6 posts
10-04-2019 2:57pm
I am using Pass Aleph III’s on stacked Quad 57’s

The only amps I liked as well were the Cary 805’s

I second the response from tleddy6 about the Cary Audio CAD 805's. I will go a bit further and say the Cary Audio 805AE. Dennis builds one of the best amplifiers on the market IMO. My other favorite which I'm supprise no one mentioned was Jeff Rowland, Ayre, & Boulder. I personally love the Jeff Rowland Model 12's monoblock (4 chassis design) They drive my Magnepan .7 speakers like i have never heard them before. I use to have the Pass Labs Xa30.5 which sounded really good but I preferred the Cary 805AE monoblock and the Jeff Rowland Model 12 monoblock for their warmth, imaging and unbelievable sound stage.

Happy Listening and less debating :-)
What is it with you and Pass? I think you must work for pass labs competition. 
dutchydog
What is it with you and Pass? I think you must work for pass labs competition.

+1 it's getting kinda scary.