Thiel Owners


Guys-

I just scored a sweet pair of CS 2.4SE loudspeakers. Anyone else currently or previously owned this model?
Owners of the CS 2.4 or CS 2.7 are free to chime in as well. Thiel are excellent w/ both tubed or solid-state gear!

Keep me posted & Happy Listening!
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Wow, even the Cardas binding posts won’t set you back that much! I would buy them again - recommended.
I've used Cardas posts in the past on a Carver amp ,
but they don't make ones with mechanical connections 
like Tom is recommending .
This will be one of the somethings that I will have to make a decision 
on , as you know from experience the dollars can add up quickly .

Does Anybody know anything about Tellerium ?
Audio Note makes them silver plated for only $57.00 each .
I have not used any high end binding posts.  The most expensive I've used so far only cost me a few dollars from Madisound.com.

I guess you won't know until you try out, but for those who have used expensive posts before, do they make a difference in the sound?
Yes, really tough to get a solid mechanical connection with the Cardas posts but, if you’re using Litz wire, the tinned ends necessitate a solder interface either way. I couldn’t compare other than the OEM wire and binding posts to the full Cardas but I can tell you the difference put a smile on my face. 

I’m looking forward to reading about your choices, progress and results.  
@tomthiel

Over on the AVSforum, there is a thread on the current science of loudspeaker design, essentially touting the "NRC/Harman Kardon" school of speaker design (itself based on lots of prior research).

The eminent Floyd Toole responded to an inquiry about whether he knew Jim Thiel with this comment:

Floyd Toole: I would occasionally see Jim Thiel at audio shows, but I never got to know him personally. We disagreed about the importance of phase, but for him it was a distinguishing feature for marketing, not science. He was always friendly.


As apparently inferred by others, that seems to say that Jim was designing for time/phase coherence for marketing purposes, not for it’s actual sonic properties. In other words "it’s just for marketing."
I have been saying I’m very skeptical of that account, as it seems obvious from what I’ve read of Jim (articles, interviews etc) that Jim certainly did see time/phase coherence as having sonic consequences. He says so explicitly in at least one interview, where he said his own tested demonstrated it to his own satisfaction, if not to skeptics or to a fully scientific level of evidence.


Some are saying (on that thread) that perhaps somewhere down the line Jim realized it was of no sonic consequence, but kept doing the time/phase coherent design because Thiel had already built a reputation marketing that characteristic.   I think that is nonsense.

TomThiel, could you add your comments on this? Thanks.