Phono Preamp Tube Rush

Those are 2 popular units.,one of which i've tried.-Herron. No noticeable tube rush at "reasonable" volume, from the listening position. 

If you're expecting SS, absolute quiet during blast sessions,in between cuts-good luck on that. Even the finest at unreasonable volume, have some leve of  hiss. 

Real amplified music is noisy. A Fender or Marshall at idle won't win awards for quiet.

@dhcod- You mentioned having tried new tubes.     Were they graded for low noise?    You probably already know, but, just in case- some tube vendors grade their tubes.    Some don’t.   ie(check what’s said, regarding, "Platinum Grade" and, "Kevin’s Stash"): https://www.upscaleaudio.com/pages/grading-matching

I have little if any tube rush with my Luxman.

One of the keys to having low noise in a tube phono stage is careful selection of low noise NOS tubes.

As mentioned above, tube rush is a fact of life with tube phono stages...to a greater or lesser extent. Even with matched NOS tubes, the amount of rush will depend on how much gain is applied to the tube.
When i hear folks say they have no or very little tube rush, that tells me that they are not listening to the speakers that close....or at very high levels. Push up the gain...and there comes the rush.
I have fought this battle for years, as my CAT preamp has had a number of different NOS tubes rolled into it..and there is always some tube rush...IF i listen very closely to the speakers. Not bothersome to me, and I do NOT hear it once the music is playing, but it has always made me question how much is actually lost in the presentation of the music vs. a ss device that is perfectly quiet ( if there is such a device)...vs how much is lost due to the beauty of tube phono stage reproduction vs. ss phono stage reproduction. I still way prefer tubes.

I have a Musical Surroundings Nova Phonemena (solid state with a DC power supply) and a Manley Chinook (tubes).  If I turn up my preamp to the 12 o'clock position with nothing playing, I hear no added noise with the Nova.  There is an audible increase in the noise level with the Chinook, but it's not overwhelming.  I don't notice the additional noise from the Chinook when I'm playing records and that 12 o'clock position on the volume dial is about as loud as I listen. 

Which pre do I like better?  The Chinook.  So yes, some noise is the price you pay for tubes.  I have low noise tubes that I purchased from Brent Jessee and I think they helped, and I'll take a little bit of noise to get that tube magic.