Is There any Consensus at all amongst Audiophiles?


I remember once reading somewhere that theories in science don't necessarily disprove and succeed each other - merely that when proponents of less popular theories die they often take their theory with them.

So even in science there is no absolute right or wrong, merely an accepted consensus which can change from day to day. Much like the butter or margarine debate which has seen both sides on top at one time or another. Sometimes even old forgotten theories eg Flat Earth, can attempt a comeback!

However this lack of consensus only applies to cutting edge science. It does not mean that the vast amount of accumulated scientific knowledge is held in contention. Indeed there have been no major upheavals in scientific thought for almost one hundred years. 

And that despite the rise of the internet age.

Anyway, it would be interesting to see whether there is any consensus at all in the world of domestic audio playback. Very little, if the past few years of this forum are anything to go by. Professional audio on the other hand doesn't seem to have the time or stomach for this kind of endless navel gazing. 

But still, there must be some consensus in domestic aydio - there must be. Otherwise we're all doomed to die endlessly disagreeing with each other. Perhaps it might be easier to get the ball rolling if we can all state what we actually believe in. Perhaps.

I'd like to start by saying that err... this isn't easy. Hmm.. how about me saying that increased bandwidth (20Hz-20kHz) is a good thing?

Surely we can all agree with that, can't we?

What else is there?

Loudspeakers have a greater performance impact on the delivered sound than other components. Even more than other transducers like headphones and cartridges.

How about adding that this is because loudspeakers exhibit over a thousand times more distortion than the rest of the audio chain added up together?

Instead of constantly bickering, which we also enjoy, it might be of some interest to see what we actually believe in.

This might be more difficult than knocking other opinions (and less fun) but who knows, it might even make us consider different opinions, if not quite abandon our own.




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The differing opinions and differing priorities are part of what makes audiophilia so much fun and what earns the sport so much derision.  What variety of angels should we count when we gaze at the head of a pin?  Imaging angels?  Angels that have slam?  Why do we have to count those angels anyway?  Isn't it good enough for the music to just have a beat we can dance to? 
Is There any Consensus at all amongst Audiophiles?
Is there any way to herd cats?


A consensus among audiophiles is only motivated by relative comparison in a unique particular room, in a very peculiar electrical grid in some building....Therefore the consensus is only motivated by our own ears and history of listening sessions and experience and experiments...Being an audiophile is a journey in listening and an education of our hearing potential...Absolutely not a science...Consensus is temporary and very relative to our own journey and education...

And "no way to herd cats" indeed... My best to all...


P.S. For sure there is some rules, for example in placing speakers, in matching gear, in room treatment etc

And also some evident fact: an amplifier costing 10,000 is probably better than my vintage very good Sansui...



They all want: "good" sound. "Good" is subjective. So there you go.

I wouldn’t waste to much time pining over the fact everyone has their own perception of what is "good" when it comes to sound. It’s largely a matter of opinion and preference.

Probably easier to get agreement on really bad ie very distorted sound than on what sounds best.

Just like most would agree dog doo flavor ice cream is bad but which flavor is best?