Is There any Consensus at all amongst Audiophiles?


I remember once reading somewhere that theories in science don't necessarily disprove and succeed each other - merely that when proponents of less popular theories die they often take their theory with them.

So even in science there is no absolute right or wrong, merely an accepted consensus which can change from day to day. Much like the butter or margarine debate which has seen both sides on top at one time or another. Sometimes even old forgotten theories eg Flat Earth, can attempt a comeback!

However this lack of consensus only applies to cutting edge science. It does not mean that the vast amount of accumulated scientific knowledge is held in contention. Indeed there have been no major upheavals in scientific thought for almost one hundred years. 

And that despite the rise of the internet age.

Anyway, it would be interesting to see whether there is any consensus at all in the world of domestic audio playback. Very little, if the past few years of this forum are anything to go by. Professional audio on the other hand doesn't seem to have the time or stomach for this kind of endless navel gazing. 

But still, there must be some consensus in domestic aydio - there must be. Otherwise we're all doomed to die endlessly disagreeing with each other. Perhaps it might be easier to get the ball rolling if we can all state what we actually believe in. Perhaps.

I'd like to start by saying that err... this isn't easy. Hmm.. how about me saying that increased bandwidth (20Hz-20kHz) is a good thing?

Surely we can all agree with that, can't we?

What else is there?

Loudspeakers have a greater performance impact on the delivered sound than other components. Even more than other transducers like headphones and cartridges.

How about adding that this is because loudspeakers exhibit over a thousand times more distortion than the rest of the audio chain added up together?

Instead of constantly bickering, which we also enjoy, it might be of some interest to see what we actually believe in.

This might be more difficult than knocking other opinions (and less fun) but who knows, it might even make us consider different opinions, if not quite abandon our own.




cd318
How about a little poll to test the waters?

Ginger?
Mary Ann?
Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart?

Pick one.

DeKay
"Indeed there have been no major upheavals in scientific thought for almost one hundred years."

I think you need to pay more attention to what is happening in biology (That is, if you’re interested). :)

Read Malcom Gladwell’s "Blink", which if I have the right tile of the several good books he has written, is about "thin slicing", in brief, the decisions that are made split second, and come from intuition and experience.

Applied to audio: People make quick decisions based on intuition and experience, and draw firm conclusions that are not easily dislodged. Different ears, different systems, different musical media.

No formal consensus on the myriad of expressions of HiFi. And that’s ok, because it’s a hobby (and, yes, an industry for some), not a lab study. There is a concerted effort on the part of industry members to be different, so obviously if consensus is not important among the industry members in terms of setting a universal standard, then it will hardly develop among enthusiasts of those companies. :)


We had the CD laser. We had Intelligent Chip. We had the Quantum Clip. We had New Dark Matter. We had the Schumann frequency generator, We even had Graphene fuses. What the hell else do you want?