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Has to be said

Hi,
i been reading most sites and the little arguments about this and that about making audio in this case be more pleasent ot better to any individual. and have to say upfront that if "you" believe its better to you than it is in fact true to you and you only. we are just reletive respondants to each other and therefore nature and the universe.
many of the subjects that come up as to improving ones audio system tend to go into little details that may or may not have "real" affects on most of us. and also be provable with phsics,math,medical studies etc.many musicians and many humans can distinguish alot of these aspects. and they are ALL quantifiable and measureable very easilly. from 1800 till today FFT and resonance,sound perfiliration has been well adjustable from the totally acoustic pipe organs to the music halls 100s of years ago with out electronic fixes, and all these new snake oil gagets on the market. many are always big commenters here on this site.
Its totally true you can "fix" and sound wave with free rocks,walls,chambers, etc. so go for it at a cost of zero dollars. and adbandon all these marketing hacks.
Ive been well into sound,RF,Radioation, Electron manulipation, Audio,phsics etc all my life and all my relatives aslso . I dont need to justify my opinions yet am dignified by holding 8 international patents,2 doctrets and my dad with similar fields.
one crazy obvious thing no one even bothers to mention is the way off standard of 440hz shifted 8hz the earths standard resonance. while all the 1000s of years 432hz was based on real natural happenings before electronics. dont you all care everything you listen to is 8hz off tune and therefore wrong, but you will bicker about a few microvolts noise from an ocslittating wire with parallell wire  hanging off a standoff. itf too funny to me.
yes all digital except one source tunes their DAC math to 435hz to be more correct to Verdi and other great composers.
ive got tuning forks over the audio and above spectrum and tune my panios violins etc to them 432 hz
and need to say again. yes please do everything Analoge
to correct your sound system, its been done in churches,music halls,the great pyrmids, with instruments themselves.
but do not chase the rabbit down the money hole to fix apparent physhoacoustics in your listening area.

ps the spelling and writing is horrid cause ive got a brain injury2 years ago and under go EEG,ehthesographs and neuro studies constantly. where various frequency sweeps are put thru me and studied by the medical and commercial fields.
Im off for now to play my bass thru 50000watts total. and resonate the neighborhood at 8.2 HZ....

128x128hemigreg
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mahgister
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One thing I know for sure, it is better to listen to some musical sound than takes a pill...:)

I am curious about the OP experience with sound....


Sometimes ago I listen only music or sound that suit my conscious taste...But for about a year now I observe exposing myself to certain sound ( perhaps better say frequencies) had certain negative or positive effect, or reinforcing effect...It is feed back and placebo also, but more than that, there is really an objective side effect to the effect of sound from the cellular to the conscious level...I am not a scientist, but I have my experience...And there is much out there for those who want to read...

For sure these experiments with sound healing are more convincing and easy to make for someone that is already in pain, hurted, or very sensible ( I am), otherwise collective blind test with corticoid production measurement protocols for example are mandatory for the research... 

like this one:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/327439522_Effect_of_528_Hz_Music_on_the_Endocrine_System_an...


My best to all...
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mahgister
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For example when you are not only in physical pain, but in an acute spiritual or psychological pain, nevermind the names, you dont feel light and you dont enjoy your normal musical listening at all...You are not able to play anymore...

Then at these times I try some music, designed to heal, there are many that suit particular needs and spiritual moods... With success...

An example of some music I enjoy for my own therapeutic use... This will not suit everybody, it is just an example of some kind of music I dont listen to in normal times of my life, but I cannot listen to much to it when I need it :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uho4EPuJVtY

This music for example calm my soul...


And remind yourself that there is a difference between relaxing music only and music with therapeutic effect first... The frontier is not clear cut for sure, but when you are in pain, you feel the difference in your bones...

For relaxation only I listen to natural sounds, wind chimes, or very simple piano melody...


Most of the days I am strong and in health, it seems so to me and others tough :) and I listen to Shostakovitch piano preludes, Scriabin or some Sun Ra free jazz marvels or Bach or Persian or Indian favorites.... All music i cannot even touch when i am in pain....But these happy days are more numerous because I am lucky in life thanks God...


My best to all


I cannot resist to say these words that had no relation to my post :)

God exist thanks to the music of Bach that prove it; and man can be a god also, a lesser one for sure, but a god tough, thanks to the Scriabin music that proves the fact...( choose a Sofronitsky interpretation for the Scriabin proof)


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hemigreg OP
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please notice that how often the sounds-Ie waves forms derived from natural sources as well as old school 432 hz tuned instruments from way back music are effective to the human positive experience.
im not talking soal or god or anything but a real basic physical/electrical reaction in the body on a cellular level.   im hoping the doctret wife in biofeedback comes in on this. please stop the banter about whose wiki research is better.    some experience with white/pink/brown noise shoes real physicalogical response.same is obvious true for plotting the fft of annoying sounds,   way off tones,very random freqs, wild modulated waves etc. you get the point. stuff you cant do a proper mathametical algorthrum. ive also fuund that older folks that cant "hear" the 20khz anymore (60+years old)are in fact effected by played contet if its sharp odd ordered harmonics. kinda like secret imposed information.
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mahgister
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Interesting toughts...I think you are right on the spot for natural sound healing effect...432 hz tuned instrument also I guess...And I am sure that the effect is very physical... Soul and body are one...

The polluting noise environment is detrimental and unbeknownst to many, not only loud noises or background noises, but bad choices for tuning like the 440 hz or exposition to too much artificial sounds...

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geoffkait
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Without too much trouble I found this somewhere in cyberspace. I’ll leave it someone else to decide it’s message.

“This frequency of 440 Hz is called the standard "Concert Pitch" and has been the practice everywhere since about 1939. It was officially adopted by the global ISO Standard in about 1956. Just about all the music you hear is adjusted to this specific pitch. But this was not always the case.

The story told on the web claims that most ancient instruments in human history were tuned to a different pitch. The one most preferred was 432 Hz. It is claimed that even the oldest flutes, dating back to the Neanderthals (45,000 BCE) were tuned to 432, as were the lyres in ancient Greece and the wind instruments discovered in Egyptian tombs.

An interesting story claims that the lyres of the temples of Greece were an integral part of the ceremonies worshiping Isis and other so-called mystery schools. Cult members were aroused to states of ecstasy by the sounds of this 432 Hz tuned music which, in the case of the Eleusinian Mysteries, made them filled with compassion and altruism. For this reason, according to the story, the war-like state of Sparta had all the lyres re-tuned to a higher frequency, thus nulling the anti-war sentiments.

Obviously, the ancient people did not have tuning forks or digital meters and so it is presumed that this frequency of 432 is intuitive, meaning that it somehow sounded right to the human ear. This kind of intuition is supported by the surprise that even the most ancient flutes all have what is called a heptatonic scale of eight notes ("Do, Re, Me, Fa...") such that, if you picked one up back then you could conceivably play Yankee Doodleon it. In fact, in Werner Herzog's film documentary, Cave Of Forgotten Dreams, archaeologist Wulf Hein plays The Star Spangles Banner on a Paleolithic flute made from the radius bone of a vulture.”


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