mmporsche,
I’ve done quite a bit of cable experimenting in my system over the years.
If you haven’t read the long bit about the Schroeder Method (Doug is a reviewer for Dagogo online), it talks of the use of double ICs with 4 sets of connectors to connect to the 2 pieces of equipment. This is obviously more expensive, HOWEVER, the sound result is well past the cost of doubling the cost of the ICs from even the same manufacturer. Doug told me about it, and I along with several friends have tried this with great success. I have double ICs going from both my CD player to the preamp and from my phono stage to the preamp. I run doubles to the amps from my preamp. All the changes were heard first with just one cable set on each, and then switching after a couple hours of listening to the double with connectors. The result is VERY easy to hear and just makes the sound more real in all ways.
That said, Grannyring on Audiogon sells his Acoustic BBQ cables with Duelund double wires for a very reasonable price with outstanding results. He is a DIY fanatic and has made several excellent components into super components in addition to building his own brand of cables which sound very organic with excellent clarity. I just know Bill (Grannyring) and have been to his house and heard what I’m talking about here. You could spend way more than this to get cables that don’t sound near as good.
Personally, I would have bought his but he started selling them after I bought the cables I heard in my system prior to buying them.
I now have Teo GC II with the Schroeder Method. They might be a little better in some areas, but these doubles cost much more than Bill’s.
I also had Speltz Anticables for speaker cables for many years. It took much more money to better them in sound. They don’t look like much, but sound very clear and detailed. They are pretty cheap at under $100 for an 8 ft. pair. I had to spend almost $700 to beat their sound noticeably. Again, Bill’s cables would only be about $325 for an 8 ft. pair. Cerious Technologies Graphene Extreme speaker cables are very well built and are the jump up I made to beat the spelt cables, finally. If you wanted much better sound than that, The CTG Matrix cables by the same company are a serious threat to many extremely expensive cables.
Grannyring’s speaker cables would be a great way to SIGNIFICANTLY upgrade your sound at a reasonable coast as would his ICs. I have nothing to do with Bill’s stuff. It’s just the best deal with very good sound in wires on Audiogon.
If you tried these cables, you’d have to be near deaf in both ears to not hear the difference in just one substitution cable set in your system.
I’ve tried many of the low to high cost cables from companies like Audioquest, Morrow, DCM, Magnan, Crimson, Harmonic Technology, Darwin, JW Reference, Clarity, Amadi, MG Audio, and others I can’t remember. The Darwin and Amadi’s were both excellent silver wired cables--the other were all copper. The Clarity Cable Organic speaker cables are the best I've used in my system. The CTG Matrix would be right there with them. Many of the tried cables mentioned are best buys in their price range. For your own benefit, the Harmonic Technology Pro 9+ speaker cables were $1499 for an 8 ft. pair and the Speltz sounded better in my system. The MG Audio Planus III speaker cables were about $1500 for a 6 ft. pair--they were the first really excellent cable to beat the Speltz. Bill's cable would also be considerably better than the Speltz--very natural and full sounding with still great detail. There is now much info on the Audiogon Forum about Acoustic BBQ cables form Grannyring.
Much of the cable experimenting has been done after I finally nailed down my main components. My system is very detailed, dynamic, and transparent with no harshness at this point. I do have tubes in my preamp, and CD player--the rest of the components are solid state. The speakers have RAAL ribbon tweeters, fanatically well built mids and bass, and exceptional cabinets--like no other in build quality.
This is probably more than you wanted to know--but there you have it. Buying used will allow you to get MUCH better sound for your money. Used cables are generally at least 50% of list price or less.
Bob
I’ve done quite a bit of cable experimenting in my system over the years.
If you haven’t read the long bit about the Schroeder Method (Doug is a reviewer for Dagogo online), it talks of the use of double ICs with 4 sets of connectors to connect to the 2 pieces of equipment. This is obviously more expensive, HOWEVER, the sound result is well past the cost of doubling the cost of the ICs from even the same manufacturer. Doug told me about it, and I along with several friends have tried this with great success. I have double ICs going from both my CD player to the preamp and from my phono stage to the preamp. I run doubles to the amps from my preamp. All the changes were heard first with just one cable set on each, and then switching after a couple hours of listening to the double with connectors. The result is VERY easy to hear and just makes the sound more real in all ways.
That said, Grannyring on Audiogon sells his Acoustic BBQ cables with Duelund double wires for a very reasonable price with outstanding results. He is a DIY fanatic and has made several excellent components into super components in addition to building his own brand of cables which sound very organic with excellent clarity. I just know Bill (Grannyring) and have been to his house and heard what I’m talking about here. You could spend way more than this to get cables that don’t sound near as good.
Personally, I would have bought his but he started selling them after I bought the cables I heard in my system prior to buying them.
I now have Teo GC II with the Schroeder Method. They might be a little better in some areas, but these doubles cost much more than Bill’s.
I also had Speltz Anticables for speaker cables for many years. It took much more money to better them in sound. They don’t look like much, but sound very clear and detailed. They are pretty cheap at under $100 for an 8 ft. pair. I had to spend almost $700 to beat their sound noticeably. Again, Bill’s cables would only be about $325 for an 8 ft. pair. Cerious Technologies Graphene Extreme speaker cables are very well built and are the jump up I made to beat the spelt cables, finally. If you wanted much better sound than that, The CTG Matrix cables by the same company are a serious threat to many extremely expensive cables.
Grannyring’s speaker cables would be a great way to SIGNIFICANTLY upgrade your sound at a reasonable coast as would his ICs. I have nothing to do with Bill’s stuff. It’s just the best deal with very good sound in wires on Audiogon.
If you tried these cables, you’d have to be near deaf in both ears to not hear the difference in just one substitution cable set in your system.
I’ve tried many of the low to high cost cables from companies like Audioquest, Morrow, DCM, Magnan, Crimson, Harmonic Technology, Darwin, JW Reference, Clarity, Amadi, MG Audio, and others I can’t remember. The Darwin and Amadi’s were both excellent silver wired cables--the other were all copper. The Clarity Cable Organic speaker cables are the best I've used in my system. The CTG Matrix would be right there with them. Many of the tried cables mentioned are best buys in their price range. For your own benefit, the Harmonic Technology Pro 9+ speaker cables were $1499 for an 8 ft. pair and the Speltz sounded better in my system. The MG Audio Planus III speaker cables were about $1500 for a 6 ft. pair--they were the first really excellent cable to beat the Speltz. Bill's cable would also be considerably better than the Speltz--very natural and full sounding with still great detail. There is now much info on the Audiogon Forum about Acoustic BBQ cables form Grannyring.
Much of the cable experimenting has been done after I finally nailed down my main components. My system is very detailed, dynamic, and transparent with no harshness at this point. I do have tubes in my preamp, and CD player--the rest of the components are solid state. The speakers have RAAL ribbon tweeters, fanatically well built mids and bass, and exceptional cabinets--like no other in build quality.
This is probably more than you wanted to know--but there you have it. Buying used will allow you to get MUCH better sound for your money. Used cables are generally at least 50% of list price or less.
Bob