Room Nucleus+ vs what for dCS


I’m considering a Roon Nucleus+ for streaming to dCS DACs. DCS says networked streaming is superior to USB on their DACs. As such, the easiest way to get content from local is a Roon Core. Is there any sonic advantage to something more expensive? The Nucleus will not be co-located with the audio rack - but will run on Ethernet and there will be no Wifi in the path. It seems like for networked listening, as long as the device can serve up the file quickly, there shouldn’t be a sonic advantage to other devices, but would certainly welcome information to the contrary. 
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Another point we would not recommend a Roon Nuclues we passed on the product after it came out due to it basically being an off the shelf Intel Nuc put into a a better case with a more advanced power supply in the case of the Roon +.

Compare this product to the Innous Zen at the same price as the Plus

Custom designed low noise motherboard
Ethernet Noise filter incomming
Ethernet Noise filter output to a streaming Dac
Low noise Intel industrial processor
EMI/RFI sheilding
Very advanced multi rail power supply designed by Dr. Sean Jacobs a noted designer specializing in digital design
Incoming power supply filter 
CD burner built in
Designed as a Roon Core 
Constant firmware upgrades at Innous continues to develop their platform

Even the Aurender product line does not offer these features, we have had them and they are excellent products with the exception of no upsampling or cross conversion through Roon, 

We feel that many people will really get a huge upgrade in terms of being able to upconvert Tidal or Qbouz from even 24 bit 192k native data stream to DSD or higher rates of PCM such as 384k and higher depending on driver and dac.

When you combine all of these factors the Innous product makes a very strong case as being the market leader at the price point

Dave and Troy
Audio Doctor NJ Innous dealers


@audiotroy you kept saying direct for Ethernet. I would love to understand how a Innous Statement located in a different part of my house, running as a Roon core, would sound better than a Roon Nucleus. It should be a purely digital signal and noise shouldn’t be an issue given they aren’t co-located and the Ethernet goes through a filter before arriving at the dCS. I’m not saying you’re wrong - I just want to understand how this is possible. 
Mayor we have tested exaclty that and even located in a differenrent room other ethernet the signal sounded better than the Innous Zenith feeding the Krell K300i via the Zeniths isolated and filtered output.

I know it sound impossible but the facts are that a better signal even being feed through the network gives you better sound.

The Statement does a better job of cleaing and packeting the data and sending it on its way over the network.

Digital is very sensitive to noise. 

We would recommend that you try the Innous product and you can try a direct USB and Ethernet connection to the DCS you may find the DCS sounds better being driven by USB.

Don't see the advantage of not keeping the server next to the DCS in the rack. 

Dave and Troy
Audio Doctor NJ Innous dealers
I am curious too how the Innous interfaces with a DAC such as DCS with an ethernet input.  Do you feed DAC ethernet from Innous and Innous is fed internet from the router? In the case of the Nucleus there is only one ethernet connection so you have to connect your DAC to the router which seems like a pretty cheesy link when you are talking the level of DCS DACs.  
The dCS is fed to the main router (through a Transparent isolator). This is how the dCS Mosiac app can see the device. Mosiac can play Qobuz and Tidal directly (along with local USB and some other services). This is the functionality of the dCS network bridge. DCS says Ethernet sounds better than USB direct. 
Then we get to Roon. The dCS Network Bridge is a Roon endpoint so a Roon Cores can play to it, using Streaming services as well as local storage for the Roon core. 
The question here is, why would the Roon core, located in another part of the house, affect sound by having the improvements on Innous? I completely understand those improvement when connected directly via USB. 
Now, my trusted hifi shop says they would love to sell me something more expensive, but the Roon Nucleus sounds great over Ethernet. The threads I can see on Computer Audiophile seem to verify. I was skeptical so came here to ask. The trouble with @audiotroy is, while he seems very nice, and I do like his posts, he has an interest in it, as he wants to sell a $20,000 Innous Statement. So more data is required.