What is wrong with audiophiles?


Something that has happened countless times happened again last night. Ordinary people over for a party listening to some music easily hear things audiophiles argue endlessly don't even exist. Oh, its worse even than that- they not only easily hear but are stunned and amazed at what they hear. Its absolutely clearly obvious this is not anything they ever were expecting, not anything they can explain- and also is not anything they can deny. Because its so freaking obvious! Happens every time. Then I come on here and read one after another not only saying its impossible, but actually ridiculing people for the audacity of reporting on the existence of reality.

What is wrong with audiophiles?

Okay, concrete examples. Easy demos done last night. Cable Elevators, little ceramic insulators, raise cables off the floor. There's four holding each speaker cable up off the floor. Removed them one by one while playing music. Then replaced them. Music playing the whole time. First one came out, instant the cable goes on the floor the guy in the sweet spot says, "OH! WTF!?!?!"

Yeah. Just one. One by one, sound stage just collapses. Put em back, image depth returns.

Another one? Okay.

Element CTS cables have Active Shielding, another easy demo. Unplug, plug back in. Only takes a few seconds. Tuning bullets. Same thing. These are all very easy to demo while the music is playing without interruption. This kills like I don' know how many birds with one stone. Auditory memory? Zero. Change happens real time. Double blind? What could be more double blind than you don't know? Because nobody, not me, not the listener, not one single person in the room, knows exactly when to expect to hear a change- or what change to expect, or even if there would be any change to hear at all. Heck, even I have never sat there while someone did this so even I did not know it was possible to hear just one, or that the change would happen not when the Cable Elevator was removed but when the cable went down on the floor.

We're talking real experience here people. No armchair theorizing. What real people really hear in real time playing real music in a real room.

I could go on. People who get the point will get the point. People who ridicule- ALWAYS without ever bothering to try and hear for themselves!- will continue to hate and argue.

What is wrong with audiophiles?

Something almost all audiophiles insist on, its like Dogma 101, you absolutely always must play the same "revealing" track over and over again. Well, I never do this. Used to. Realized pretty quickly though just how boring it is. Ask yourself, which is easier to concentrate on- something new and interesting? Or something repetitive and boring? You know the answer. Its silly even to argue. Every single person in my experience hears just fine without boring them to tears playing the same thing over and over again. Only audiophiles subject themselves to such counterproductive tedium.

What is wrong with audiophiles????
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So we can see there's nothing wrong with this audiophile. Thank you, mahgister. The exception that proves the rule.
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Ok I understand better your point Geoffkait...For sure being right or wrong about audio tweaks or science has nothing to do with money at all...

But the lack of money push you to be creative, on the right or wrong track anyway, but creative you must be, if you want some sound quality results with your audio system... ( money for sure is not the warrenty of Hi-FI " per se" but money can be a more "economic" means to obtain it without too much work).

And i must not reinvent the wheel also and i must listen to basic known facts of science for sure… But it is not a necessity to be a scientist and someone can use his own ears to obtain a relatively good results, without resolving any equations... For example to treat a room without a computer,or make empirically homemade cheap Helmholtz bottles...

Sometimes, in a particular situation, the best possible, is, in someway, the enemy or in some mindset, the obstacle for the better...
Let me restate my point - while there’s obviously nothing wrong with DIY results can be just as hit and miss for poor people as they can for rich people. Enthusiasm can be very contagious.

Say that’s actually pretty good. I mean it actually makes sense. Except the last bit, enthusiasm, seems intended more to denigrate (you only ’think’ you hear it, because of your enthusiasm) when it should be uplifting. But whatever. Progress.

Say, I just thought of something! What if you state your point, write it all out, and delete it. Then restate your point, and post that instead! Half the posts, twice the quality. Sounds crazy but it just might work?