Love it when it snows

You are right Geoffkait...

But the desire and love for truth begins before formal education... And it is also a choice of society...A choice that can be valorized...

When a great part of a society does not valorize truth, but agendas, the first consequence is social chaos...

Guess where we can observe these facts at different levels of manifestation ? Pick a country and put that country in the scale consisting of 3 levels : Valorize truth mostly, half and half society, and finally those that does not valorize truth or cannot valorize truth no more...You will have the 3 steps toward chaos...

This is true not only for all compared societies on earth now but it is true for each one of them in the different steps of his own history...

Knowledge can be defined as whatever’s left after you subtract out all the mumbo jumbo you forgot since you got out of school. From what I can tell most folks go to school to get a degree so they can get a good job. It has precious little to do with either the desire to learn or truth. 

Your observation even being right does not annihilate the true desire for truth in human being.... This desire is like hunger when people are not totally programmed or destroyed by the environmental conditions (war or political chaos or lies)...This desire for truth is the only food with love that human needs...I will silence myself here because I will pass for a preacher.... :)

Perhaps it is the reason I loved mathematics so much, there is no lies there, and in there is the foetus of the science of tomorrow...I am optimist only because of that fact that I can clearly see... 

Please note I’m not saying there is no such a thing as a desire to learn.  But your argument appears to be all you have to do to solve the “climate problem” is to educate everybody. And I’m saying you can’t educate everybody even if you wanted to desperately. One also assumes that once “everyone is educated” they will only vote people in who will act responsibly. Another huge leap of faith in my humble opinion. 

The desire to learn exist...I remember mine....Mine was also motivated by some helping adults...And basic education of children across the world is one of the most important task for survival....

I dont speak about educating all children in physics but in the basic needs of their actual living environment.... :)


My argument for the climate problem solving was alimentation, education and protection all across the board of soil and trees and ecosystems...Not only schooling...Money must be redefined for example... Actual economical science as science is way behind astrology status ....( I am able to understand and read the 2 by the way and I can compared)… :)

Those who reduce economy to finances instruments and finances mathematics are crooks not scientist even with a diploma ...Economy is too much complex science, like medicine, to be founded only on mathematics for finances affairs...

One also assumes that once “everyone is educated” they will only vote people in who will act responsibly. Another huge leap of faith in my humble opinion.

And also some democracies are possible that are not in the process of a dumbing down democracy, a problem already envisioned in his beginnings in America by Tocqueville...