Jazz for aficionados

One of RVG's statements that's never mentioned is, when asked about his take on digital and records, he said "Good riddance to records".


            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudy_Van_Gelder

There is nothing that irritates me more than guys in the "Analog" forum. When these "newbies" buy a record player and wonder why their records don't sound so hot, those guys act like they don't know what's wrong, when they know full well that if you don't have a big buck high end rig, CD's sound better.

@frogman    :-) Laughing about the reminder of my b in l's take on bass solos.  Not hearing that from Charnett at all.  I got onto him because he was the bass player on TW's Civilization recording. 

I'd heard the name Cyrus Chestnut but knew not much else.  There's a lengthy run he does on Mood Indigo that really caught my ear when I first heard it.  Read his bio on Wiki.  The man is gifted and well-schooled.  

@orpheus10   The entire Music From Our Soul recording strikes me as a little "oddball" - though in a good way.  It's a real "stew"  considering the selection of compositions, performers, as well as recording venues (both studio and live).  Hearing and liking Pharoah Sanders' contributions was a happy surprise to me.  

Thanks to all for taking time to give a listen.  Gratifying.  

@pjw - Hope Mary Jo re-visits the thread soon.

Audiophile:
a person who is enthusiastic about high-fidelity sound reproduction.
(webster).

Music has nothing to do with it. CD players are just too simple. Insert disc, hear music. Minimum involvement. Nothing to ’fiddle’ with.

On a Steve Guttenberg episode, an audiophile ’admitted’ that he was interested in sound, not music. He said his wife liked music.   Steve said, "you are the first to admit it".

Some just like the gadgets. Once I understood this, all became clear.

Cheers

There is nothing that irritates me more than guys in the "Analog" forum. When these "newbies" buy a record player and wonder why their records don’t sound so hot, those guys act like they don’t know what’s wrong, when they know full well that if you don’t have a big buck high end rig, CD’s sound better.

Back in the early 90’s I had just put in a good 3 years auditioning and putting together my dream system in my newly remodeled listening room. Had a nice CD player and thought I was done when reading Robert Harley’s Compete Guide to High End Audio and got to the chapter on turntables, wherein he says this is the foundation of a high end system. Still.

Really? How? No way.

But out in my garage was my old Technics SL-1700 just sitting in a box. Still had my 1970’s vintage Kenwood integrated with its built-in phono stage. So I dug it out and hooked it all up. It was around this time that I noticed the cantilever on the Stanton 681EEE cartridge was bent. Dang. Oh well, pliers. Kinked but straightened I put on one of my records.

Out from my speakers came this rich full sound so much better than anything I had heard from any CD anywhere in my searches. You coulda knocked me over with a feather.

Wife comes home that night, hears music, gets all interested asks what is that? Tom Petty. No, I mean what is it? What do you mean? It sounds so good. She was right. It did sound good. She had no idea. Could not see it was a record. The turntable was down on the floor, out of sight, so of course it had to be CD. That was after all all we had. When she came in and had a look she was as amazed as me.

Okay so let’s review:  
1970’s DD turntable.  
Bent cantilever.  
Patch cords. 
1970’s phono stage.  
Grand total $700 new, or about $0 at then used prices. Before the Technics started appreciating. Beat CD, according to double- no, wait! triple blind testing.
Anyone says you need to spend a lot to sound good, either no idea what they’re talking about, or they’re talking ideology not sound. Or both.