Which brand of 45 tubes do you use?


Can anyone using 45 tube amplifiers share their knowledge about what manufactures make them and your impressions of the quality. An impression of the sound quality in your system would be useful. I know that there is NOS, EML and Sophia Electric 45s. Any others?
Thanks!
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I don't know if any particular sound I heard is characteristic of meshplates, but, the sound of EML's solid plate 2a3 is much more like other 2a3's--very tight, dynamic, slightly lean and punchy sounding.  I own very dynamic sounding speakers so I didn't mind the less tight sound of the meshplate tube and I did like that wash of sound that evelopes the listener that I got with the meshplates.  I used the description "phasey" because the sound is a littlbe bit like when speakers are out of phase, but, instrument locations remain solid and correctly placed; in other words, it is a rough description.  As I said before, I like the meshplate tube in my Kageki amp.

I like very much the sound of several OTL amps I've heard.  The immediacy, and liveliness of good OTL's are something everyone should at least experience.  Speakers come alive with OTL's.  Like any type of amps, there are considerable variations in the sound, from different choice of tubes, components, design, voicing, etc.  Unfortunately, there are not that many commercial choices out there.  The amps I particularly like are custom-made ones that utilize a television sweep tube.   
Larry,  I believe I understand your description of  "phasey". My 45 amps are a simple SET using one 45 tube (1.5 watts) and silver hybrid transformers. Our speakers are very dynamic so the mesh plate EML might be a nice match

The only OTL amps I've owned were Joule Electra. The mid-range and upper mid-range was wonderful, bass not so much. I got them from a friend so I don't know their history but they turned out to be noisy, finicky and hot so they didn't last long in my room. I am interested in trying contemporary OTLs. 
I liked the Joule Electra OTL I heard.  It was a nice warm sounding amp that retained the explosive dynamics and immediacy of OTL's without sounding harsh or rough.  But, the particular amp I heard developed bad tube sockets that cause it to occasionally deliver extremely loud pops (a friend borrowed this amp from the dealer to use on his 105 db/w efficient system and he said the pop was as loud as discharging a shotgun indoors).  This problem was reported by others so it is something to be concerned about.

The Atmasphere OTL's are also nice sounding units, though a bit too lean sounding for my particular taste.  With high efficiency speakers they often are a bit noisy-buzz/hum.  Still, they are a must listen to amp because they might fit your taste and they certainly deliver the OTL goods.  I've heard other commercial OTL's from the past, and I liked the sound, but, they seemed to be often in need of repair. 

There is the unique Berning circuit amps, which are the subject of debate whether they are OTL's or not.  I've heard both the Berning models and the Linear Tube Audio models.  For my particular taste, they are a bit too lean sounding.
The Joule Electra OTLs were very nice sounding amps but too finicky for the showroom. Maybe the set we had needed repair. The biasing system was not consistent. I never experienced loud pops from faulty tube sockets but had read about it. The contact between the pins and sockets were, in most cases, very loose.

Yes, the Atmasphere OTL S-30 is on the top of my list to try. Our speakers have powered woofers. The main towers have a sensitivity of 105 dB and the high pass is 120 Hz. They are a very easy load for most amps. As long as the S-30 is quiet enough it should work well.

I have read about the Berning amps but have never heard them. I had a chance to speak with David Berning at the CAF 2018 show. Very interesting design but beyond my price point. I prefer to not demo our speakers with amps that cost more than three times their cost. I wouldn't mind trying them though. 
If you are interested in Berning amps then contact Linear Tube Audio. They manufacture amps based on the Berning ZOTL technology. Their ZOTL10 should work very well with your speakers and the price is just a tad over $3k.

I have owned both the Atma-Sphere S-30 and M60s. I know you don't need the power, but in my opinion the differentiation dictates that the M60 is the one to get. For reference I also have Music Reference and Futterman OTLs.

As for tubes, it's EML or bust for us for new production and RCA/Cunningham for NOS. Also, the recommendation to use Andy at VTS is a good one. He is my go to guy for NOS tubes I otherwise can't get my hands on.