Trelja, Ellerys offer sounds more than fair, especially if we are are talking about the 1.13 version which most posters agree is much better than the later 1.14 version, and it's a breath mint! The only thing i can't go along with is the use of 1/8" stainless steal with.........uh..........oh yeah , memory foam inserts. After extensive testing, i've found that 1/4" brass has a lot less resonance and sounds more relaxed as it is humming down the road in thoses brown vans, and most poster agree that the 113Version is very sensitive to mood changes and will work at it's best when happy, in fact i'm doing some testing in a brown van at the moment, isn't technology amazing, i've modified my Royal typewriter to connect wirelessly to the internet.............hey, don't bogart that.........uh......, sorry what were we talk....oh yeah, i know nothing about welding stainless steal(why do they call it stainless steal?, i've spilling some bordeaux wine while testing and the stains it made were almost impossible to get out, i had to use WD-41 with stainless steal wool to remove them) or brass but could have the boxes made professionally here by the experts at the local fabricating shop, a place called Home Depot, so just send the $30,000. directly to me, i'll have the work done and forward the boxes to Elery with the balance of the money as long as Elery agrees to cover 1/2 of the shipping charges. In true AG spirit, my consultation/reasearch is a gift to you, and if you could send me a blank check made out to my fabricator, his name is Cash, i'll take care of all the paperwork as well. Hope to hear from you soon, Alan