Which R2R DAC UP TO 1K: ORGANIC, FULL-BODIED, DEEP SOUNDSTAGE


Hi all and hello George,

I`m new to Audiogon and as I have seen from earlier discussions some of you seem to be THE absolute R2R enthusiasts for many years. May I ask you for some help regarding this topic as I`m out for a new dac which should be R2R?

I`m coming from a Lector CDP 707, which is sold now as I got over to streaming, but I bloody regret it. The Lector had all I ever wanted, tonally he played on the warm, full-bodied side, organically with a lot of flesh to the bone and authority/slam and I loved the expansive soundstage, not overly wide but very deep. Bass was punchy enough even for EDM which I listen to mainly.

For the moment I`m using my former headamp as a DAC, the Questyle CMA 600i, with a DS chip on board, AKM 4490. I wouldn`t call it a catastrophe, but of course the signature is lightyears away from the Lector.

When looking for a new DAC I saw that Lector Strumenti offers some too, but I`m afraid my budget is too small with up to 1K, so this is not an option.

In respect of the Lector using the PCM 1704K I thought about (ab)using some vintage gear, for examle the Denon DVD 5000 with 4xPCM 1704J on board too (the Denon has a digital input and could be used as a stand alone DAC too), but I was told the analog stage is crappy and so I got away from this.

Still on my mind is the old Naim DAC and the Bifrost 2 or a used HoloSpring but for the moment I got no possibilitys to test them in my system (I`m using a tube packed preamp and as a headamp the Emotiva BasX 100 with the jumpers set as my "heddphone" requires some juice) and sure I`m open to any other ideas.

So, what would be your favourite devices when looking at my desired sound and knowing what (tiny amount) I got to spend?


It should be able to handle 24/96 btw, but my main concern would be an extremely deep and wide soundstage and a darker organic tonality.

Would be really glad for some help and input.

Best regards
Michael


barrista0611
If you can find a used Yamamoto YDA-01 that could be your ticket. I was lucky enough to find one right at your price point, actually.
Thanks a lot for the first ideas!

@georgehifi I just found one Cary 303 through hifishark but it doesn't have a digital input. Nevertheless the reviews sound promising. The CAL' s reviews seem to be fitting too. Found one in Austria, while I'm from Germany, so not a big deal. But the price is 650 EUR and so I'm asking myself if it can compete with the newer dedicated R2R dacs, as Naims from 2010 or the actual Bifrost 2. What do you think about this? 

@devilboy Never heard of Yamamoto but I will definitely have an eye on this. Really could be worth a try. Could you maybe say some words about the overall tonality and it' s ability regarding soundstage, macrodynamics, imaging and layering?

Thanks again! 
Look at any of the MHDT offerings. I have a modified Pagoda and it does all of that in spades.

Oz





It should be able to handle 24/96 btw, but my main concern would be an extremely deep and wide soundstage and a darker organic tonality.
I have all of it except it is not darker but warm with details without end....Starting Point Systems Nos dac tda 1543....For the price perfect.....I will never upgrade because I dont sense any limitations with my audio system.... Rightly embedded this dac is a MINIMAL design marvel, look at the inside....I pay this 24 dollars on an Ebay bid.... :)


I apologize for my bragging about....But.... Some poors audiophiles must know about this marvel....It can be bought used for 100 bucks or a little more....Forget any dac upgrade after that.....
barrista0611

Cary 303-200 I’m asking myself if it can compete with the newer dedicated R2R dacs
I owned own for many years and was very happy with it standard, in the end even modded it with my own stacked AD844 I/V stage, and then it became a giant killer.
https://www.diyaudio.com/forums/digital-line-level/227677-using-ad844.html


but it doesn’t have a digital input.
Yes it does input and output rca’s and aes/ebu also optical
https://www.audioasylumtrader.com/images/y2014/10/119602/IMG_0551.JPG

https://www.audioasylumtrader.com/ca/listing/CD-Player-Recorder/Cary-Audio/303-200/HDCD-CD-Player/119602

Cheers George