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Any advice on Ayon scorpio integrates?

Hi, quite new to this and first time starting a thread. I am thinking of getting a tube integrated amp at around $2000-3000, for my P3ESR. The ones I have been looking were Primaluna Evo 100, and Unison research Triode25. Then I came to know about Raven and Ayon. Raven seems good but sold out completely so took off from my list to narrow down choices, while Ayon Scorpio seems interesting with A class pentode pushpull, and also as most of their lines are at higher range, making me think there may  be the higher range essence in this lower range scorpio model. Although, there are very few feedbacks or user’s comments on those and would like to ask experienced people here in the forum for any impressions experienced etc..
Not only about the amp itself but mystery is why there are not much of mentioning of Scorpio here either good or bad, despite that could be a interesting alternative to one like Primaluna. 
many advice/comment would be appreciated. 
junvisi
junvisi OP
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limomangus,

sorry posted without finishing; despite my likes, I will study about Cayin, as I have not done much up to now. Thanks again!
junvisi OP
9 posts
 
tablejocky,

Exactly! the Ayon seems to be a reasonable price choice but with high end background, class A Pentode, Lundahl(from what I heard from US importer) opt, but the advertisements are sort of limited from few source and not much of reports or feedbacks available from users or audiophiles.

that makes me feel (honestly and no offense to Ayon) slightly skeptical but at the same time maybe that is because they originally focus on high end and limited infos may mean that’s a hidden gem still? I am in between those thoughts and trying to find out more clues..

I did a search on there manufacture, it seems that they once went to China for manufacture or assemble, but that changed and now made in Europe??? (not totally in Austria but some countries around Europe)? I admit I can’t be sure on this but after opening many many web page tabs on my pc, I think one of the page mentioned
 something like that. 
tablejockey
3,934 posts
 
Wherever it's made, shouldn't deter you from buying.

If the dealer seems legit with a solid warranty, that's all that matters.
Some sort of 30 day return  with no, or minimal restock should be offered.

I've read a review years ago on that model, it's supposed to be a nice amp. 
junvisi OP
9 posts
 
yogiboy,

Thank you! Rogue magnum iii,  I will look into it. It seems a reachable choice vs my budget and a open chassis that I like. At a glance, it seems like a UL /Triode pushpull with KT120 providing 100wpc at 8ohms. Very powerful and noted that your friend has good experience of matching with P3esr, thank you for very valuable advice.

I knew,,, I knew that P3esr is best with juice, but my illusion of combining rich acoustic sound speakers with rich SET amp like 300bs to be a gorgeous match, I know it’s wrong but that was where my image started, and is still bothering me...



junvisi OP
9 posts
 
tablejockey,

You’re right. With confirming acceptable level of build and service, it may be how I can find a feature, specs, or design that I could tie my interest to.

Given the limitation of physically visiting shops, I am now too much on “paper evaluation“ which I enjoy learning and imaging many patterns, talking to audio experts here, but you’re right that I should do some listening more. 

Thanks for your advice!
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