For anyone who moved from tubes to solid state — a question

When I listen to my tube based system, I get emotionally carried away. When I listen to my SS system I get interested. For me, emotional is more true to the essence of the music.

My Sansui must be a "tube" amplifier without me knowing it....It does not sound only detailed but visceral also and warm....

:)

I truly think that the differences that a good embedding can make is over the relative differences betweeen Tubes and solid state.....But i dont have experience with high end tubes amplifiers then....... :)

It is just that i cannot think that my sound from the sansui is in any way like some describe S.S.

Perhaps some dont know it Sansui takes 25 years to reproduce exactly one against the other their best tube amplifier with their best solid state.... Their goal was to reproduce the tube amp Sansui in their Sansui S.S..... That was a complete success.... I dont have the link to the video tough no more....

Instructive to understand a difference that only relatively exist not by virtue of an eternal difference in design but by accident and tech history...

A good embed S.S. amplifier and a good embed tube amp. are on par.....

The question must be: is it reallly rightfully embedded mechanically, electrically, and acoustically? The question is not wich is better a S.S. amp or a tube one.... It is relative to their quality/price ratio and finally to their embeddings in the system, room, and house.....Theorically we can design a S.S. amplifier to sound like a tube amp, Sansui has proved it long ago....

Tubes and SS are a different paradigm. They approach producing music from different perspectives. My understanding is that tubes are a more visceral experience and SS more intellectual.

This type of generalization is common in a variety of audio debates, but not really true. The right SS setup can be emotionally very engaging, and tubes can leave you cold in the wrong setup.

I think we've reached the logical end of this topic, regarding the big picture.

We have these two recent statements:

best of breed tube and solid state are very close now, and ever converging

And the opposite claim:

Tubes and SS are a different paradigm. They approach producing music from different perspectives. My understanding is that tubes are a more visceral experience and SS more intellectual.

Be that as it may, I'm still interested in what someone specifically gave up in order to gain with SS. With as many variables controlled as possible. But maybe this well is run dry.

Like someone else already said here, ZOTL technology seems to be the way to go without any negative  claimed by the 2 camps against each other, in the tubes versus S.S. debate....

I want one and i accept donation.... :)

imagine an easy load no bizare phase angles, gentle slope filters speaker with power factor corrected feed forward amp below 100 hz with 11 bands of analog EQ...amp matched to sub, sub matched to amp, then the high pass goes to a hybrid amp with tube front end, liquid cooling for rock solid bias ( think that thru ), bipolars in a cyclotron floating ground output and a bunch of other neat tricks of amplifier supremely matched to speaker load and sensitivity..

Vandersteen 7 speaker and Vandersteen 7 amp

you can get close for $30k with Quattro and Model 5 amp

as othersstated, but i will paraphrase, unfair advantage when you can purpose design an amplifier for the load, and in this case split the load