Put that in your pipe(s) and smoke it


I'll say it again: let's seek out the gem's and leave the rest, folks. Ignore the trolls, or be selective of the actual content they bring up - should you choose to reply; it may even hold an unexpected, worthwhile observation or two on a subject that could put into perspective our endeavors here.

More importantly, if we want this forum to allow for free speech and a degree of resilience, some around here should reconsider their liberal urge to hit the 'report' button, because that's the thing that truly annoys me and what I'd call the real trolls around here: the one's feeling offended on grounds I imagine to be so relative to their own agenda, indeed petty in nature, that their reporting a post or thread is likely to see no further inquiry by the admins and is therefore, simply by virtue of being a report alone, put into effect as an actual deletion.

We should be able to hold a conversation without someone feeling taken aback over what is, in the bigger scheme of things, insignificant issues. If not it's an ongoing, sad tendency to shut the mouths of those we don't agree with, or for some other flimsy reason don't like. 
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Also, no one's free speech is imperiled by questioning why this thread was posted in the *speakers* forum (unless it's a subtle bit of etymological fun).
For the most part it's all fine and dandy. BUT I've seen excessive deletions on certain occasions. It WAS NOT a software glitch, it was a moderator reaching WAY to far, plane and simple.. I don't praise folks for doing a good job. That's why they are paid.
When it's BAD or EXCEPTIONAL, they both get my attention..I prefer the latter, yes, I do...

I've seen ZERO intervention too, when there should have been. ZERO..
Time after time the OP ask the SAME people to move on, pages of harassment, not a single word...OP ASK, and ASK, and ASK.. NOTHING... It was pretty easy to spot, NOT A THING...I felt bad for the guy.. Really...horrible!!!!! :-) let me shed a tear...No I THINK I have to have good CRY....OK all Better...

I try to speak with my pocket book, if I have to. It usually works better..
Still looking for an SPL-05 with all the whistles and bells.  I think that will shut me up for a while..:-)

Time to feed to the chickens, come on dog...

Regards
If one were to draw a Venn diagram, you'd see overlaps on those who spout political beliefs, those who counter, and those who can't abide by that so they delete posts. Pretty simple. Either it goes both ways or is doesn't.....for everyone......all the time.

All the best,
Nonoise
Politics and economy cannot be described by a Venn diagram even here and even for describing only the people here...When we can describe politics with a Venn diagram it is an ominous sign indeed, resembling to the guy painting himself in the corner of his balcony without an escape route...the 2 parties alternative in north America and in some other part of the world resemble charybde and scyllas alternatives....It was not mean to be that way in the beginning, but to be a division of political work akin to breathing movements on the social body....It is no more like that at all....

Asking people to take a definitive side once and for all is like asking someone to paint himself in a corner.... Who is so fool to do it for himself to begins with?

Saying that people has no choices except these 2 one is very simplistic....

It remind me in audio of the useless war between digital and analog, or tubes and processors, or other apparent "superior" warring alternatives... In reality the 2 are needed to begin an understanding and an improving audio... In the same way left and rightwing positions are need together to understand a reality more complex than these 2 visions, even when they must work together...( war, pandemics, and also day to day efficient poitical work)


Politics to be real, like an ethical dialogue, suppose a "collaboration" for example between 2 parties in relation to an external reality participated by the 2 parties.... But if there is no more a common reality agreed upon by the 2 parties, there is war and no dialogue is possible...No political concrete effective solution is possible but only extremist ideology pertaining to one or the other party, when winning is more important than the search for truth...

Samething for economy, when the main part of the economical activity has no link at all with reality (material day to day economical trivial activities has no link nowadays with Wall Street).

Then understanding reality nowadays is impossible if we divided reality from the 2 parties sides, except to make useless Venn diagram...

I am afraid that thinking is necessary not more sophisticated cataloguing of anything with the 2 parties ideology....

I then suggest to ban any political militant partying opinions from the audio forum, except non partisan remarks in real politics....And nowadays real politics is not translatable no more in only left or only right simplistic scheme and games....

This lost of reality is the tragedy of our times.....

My best to all....
Politics is the set of activities that are associated with making decisions in groups, or other forms of power relations between individuals, such as the distribution of resources or status. The academic study of politics is referred to as political science.Wikipedia
Nope. It's not at all how you pretend it to be. Politics and economics are so intertwined that particular economic models like capitalism are constantly conflated with politics, and for good reason. You can't have one without the other.

All the best,
Nonoise