A blessing? Or a curse?


We all know there’s people who seem to have no memory of or ability to recall anything they hear. We know because they tell us so. In no uncertain terms, either! They are quite certain the only way anything can be compared is to flip back and forth instantaneously, because no one can remember anything they have heard for more than like a microsecond.

So okay, they can’t hear, can’t remember, they are quite certain this is the case, what can we do but believe them?

We also know there are people who seem to be able to recall very well things they have heard, sometimes even quite a long time ago. We hear this one all the time too. They tell us how a certain speaker or whatever sounds, even though they heard it only maybe once at some show or whatever many months ago. Let’s not quibble was it the speakers or the amp or the room or whatever. Point is a definite acoustic memory formed and has stayed with them.

Which at long last brings us to what you already know its really all about: Me! I have this decades long ritual where whenever people are coming over I do something, and sometimes a lot of somethings, to make the system really shine. My favorite thing about this, if I’m totally honest, is at the end when its late at night and the system is truly peaking I get to relax back and take it all in.

So this last time with the guys from Portland coming up, and then on to Mike Lavigne’s, well guess what? Left the Herron and the table on from the night before, woke up early to get the Melody going, ran the XLO demagnetizing tracks about a zillion times, demagnetized, sprayed, and then played a few sides. What they heard when they got here was pretty good. Or as I am told the unanimous opinion was, "Fantastic!" Then off to Mike Lavigne’s. So by the time I get back and relax that night its all been running for like 24 hours.

Holy moly did that sound good! Did not even want to go to bed.

Okay so here’s the problem. Last night, system been off a week, usual 30 min warm up, nothing else, anyone wonder why I was kind of underwhelmed? Its that dang auditory memory. If only I could forget! But then, if I was one of those guys who can’t remember a ding dong thing, would I have the system I have?

So what say you? Is it a blessing? Or a curse?
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I believe our hearing gets better as the night comes on. A combination of tiredness and an increased sensitivity survival mech?
No doubt. One can't erase 200K+ years of evolution since we've only been "civilized" for about the past 12K years when we began agricultural groupings.

I guarantee it that if you're walking in the wilderness alone for awhile and that twig snaps, all of that 200k+ years of conditioning will race to the forefront and surprise you. Heck, on my morning and evening walks I see it all the time as I sometime startle people when I come up on them as I tend to over pronate which quietens ones approach. My SEAL friend said they taught them to walk that way so as to be quieter. 

All the best,
Nonoise


I think you mean people who think they hear better, but never really put that to the test should stop insulting others. All these people who claim they have "superior" hearing, rarely do but they certainly feel the need to tell everyone else they do and that others are inferior. Look how often it happens here.
Jealousy, thy name is audio2design. I’ve never claimed to have "superior" hearing. If I had a nickel for every time I’ve heard that, I’d be able to buy you a hearing aid. Why is it that that old saw is brought up as representative of everyone who’s ever made the claim that they could hear the difference? For a fallback position after all else fails is sad.

And why the appeal to authority with all the engineers and pros who, mostly, are just churning out stuff? Yes, they’re trained to hear better but so does the lowly audiophile that you look down your nose at. It goes both ways. John Atkinson wrote a great article on how sound and recording engineers fall victim to their craft by being limited by it. I can’t find the article but it’s out there for the inquisitive.
Greater visual acuity does not confer greater ability to quickly find detail in a scene, nor to better understand the image being presented. It’s not like smells, or even taste, where the sensing is complex, but processing more simple.
And stop with the strawman arguments. No one stated that and it makes for a poor analogy. Better visual acuity would make it so much easier to train to see better, if that were one’s chosen path, compared to one who had poorer vision. No contest.

As for tasting and smelling we seem to agree that it is complex but where we diverge is that you feel no one hears better if not professionally engaged in it and I feel that hearing acuity varies greatly from person to person due to its complexity, just like any other sense, which you’re dancing around on, avoiding the topic, as one would have to admit that hearing acuity is strengthened through years of hearing.

All the best,
Nonoise

Anytime one has something that is good it is a blessing and people should be thankful for it. 


audio2design
229 posts11-19-2020 5:43pm

We know there are people here who have delusions of grandeur and of perceive they have superhuman capability.

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Some maybe, others maybe not. There are folks that are blessed with the ability do something better than others. Some accept it, some don’t.

To what end? That you can say they can’t and they know they can. Who cares. I already had this conversation before. WITH YOU. Do you alway tell others what they can and cannot hear, because you have such a trained ear. Is the benchmark YOUR learning, your way, what a person like me would be at odds with? OR the fact that when others bring up the facts of THEIR good fortune, your ability has to TRUMP, that simple fact.

I’m sure of myself, because of my training. For some reason, others think I or ANYONE need their approval, for their abilities. I don’t.
I’m pretty sure that YOU are good at what you do. BUT I would never tell you, you had delusion, of grandeur, or that you were NOT superhuman.
You might be! The delusions, I hope they are NOT... Va VOOM!!

I mean has the bar been raised? Not by me. I just want to learn a little something.

Who wants to learn from a smart guy who keeps telling you, "your not good at, what you know you are". Polished no, haughty, oh yea, downright RUDE, gives as good as he gets. MC just like you me and everyone here, wants to share and not be insulted, even though you don’t put a name to the dispersions. Everyone will do just fine...

Word Up!! (from the neighbor kid "Corry the Thief")

He was talkin’ bout memberin’ shi# dowg!!!...

He lovin his shi$, b lovin wit’, BUT NO NEED fo Hatin’, mofo

Shinny shoes on the top still got shi$ on the bottom, dude..

My buddy Corry’s.. thoughts... He figured you out with one read..

Corry is into BASS comp.. Good kid. Come to see Ol Man Bass
WE go to church together.. I had to edit a bit. The language!

I think YOU, ME and MC would get along just fine. But Corry, Duno

It has been proven to me over and over, there are people that have some pretty special talents. Thank the good good Lord for it.

Time to DANCE.... HAT on the floor... I slowly walk around the hat to the beat of the musicka’. The dog follows me.......Olay...She keeps wanting to polka.. Irish dog...

What is wrong with dancing, with the ONLY star in the room, ME.. Tap Tap!!! Samba

It’s a blessing, A BLESSING..... maybe...

Regards
Miller

my answer was totally serious.  I doubt that there was any significant difference in the sounds that your system was emitting on two different occasions.  What differed was your reaction to what you were hearing, which can be influenced by many factors, which are specific to you.  Unless you can produce some measurements showing that your system is doing different things at different times, this discussion doesn’t go anywhere.
  I eventually wound up buying some gear that I hated when I first heard it at Axpona.  At the show it was hot, crowded, I had a tiff with my spouse over spending the whole day there, the friend that I had chosen to go with had recently joined a Fundamentalist Church and spent the day proselytizing, the room for the demo was definitely suboptimal...I could kind of get an idea of the sound of the piece, but was so out of sorts that I put off pursuing it.  Some time later in the friendly confines of my now sadly out of business dealer I heard the same piece.  I recognized the basic sonic signature as I heard at the show but now I was strongly tempted to buy on the spot.  I actually had to check myself by wondering if I was being irrationally exuberant due to the completely different circumstances.  My dealer let me borrow it for the weekend and listen in my own system, and of course I bought it.
  So is it a curse or a blessing that I could recognize that sonic signature over a stretch of time?  I suppose a blessing, and it helped drive home that there is a strong element of subjectivity to this hobby that influences perceptions on a given day.  Ymmv