@mahgister I know full well what timbre is since music theory in college
First my post about timbre was not directed to you, but to the "specialist" which with i was discussing...Then no need to be insulted by some information you already know...By the way timbre is not only a musical fact, but also an acoustical fact, and also a neurological and linguistic fact, and even other things...Then some information was necessary....You are not alone here...Dont be too reactive to some post like a teen.... 😁
Your mansplaining or copying out of a book is irrelevant and adolescent.
Here spare me your gratuitous insult please, i cited 5 lines of wiki, calling back a complex description of Timbre for a non specialist in 5 points and the post was not directed to you....I use this clear 5 points to illustrate my own point...I am not a specialist and i cannot reinvent the wheel....
My other citation is 2 lines about the fact that timbre is not an abstract digital signal but an acoustical event...The writer said it better than i said it already in my posts.... Another time i cannot reinvent the wheel... I am not a genius nor an engineer nor an acoustician...and my discourse was aiming to a "specialist" here, then i used this citation for his clarity in the context...
By the way if you think my citation was irrelevant, i think you are of bad faith, the wiki 5 lines are TOTALLY relevant to the course of the discussion....
Perhaps it is your attack of my post that is irrelevant and adolescent... Others will judge...
Most of what you talk about is rambling gibberish suitable for an abnormal psych textbook but not here, though we appreciate the enthusiasm!
I will not take this one for an insult because i think that you assimilate and confound the content of my explanation with my bad use of the syntax and rhetorical english... English is not my first language and i never use it except for reading.... I apologize for that....But my explanation is perhaps cumbersome but understandable.... I know that timbre is not an illusory purely subjective elusive phenomenon it is a real timing bundles of events for the ears/brain and i was not sure that my interlocutor knows it....
My opinion about audio digital format versus analog format was clearly expressed tough...Contrary to my interlocutor i dont accuse vinyl afficionados of illusion or pure fetichism because they like the sound of their turntable and cannot support bad digital dac or recording or prefer simply vinyl...Fetichism for the cardboard pocket containing the vinyl perhaps refreshing their nostalgia but it is an another matter....
Then i will deduce from your remark about my posts that certainly they were not ABSOLUTE gibberish even for you if you have appreciated my enthusiasm, and i will attribute to your own excessive enthusiasm the fact that you have not been cautious enough and you have not precised clearly that your words about my " rambling" was more inspired by my heavy writing than by my content and argument about timbre....I suppose that you are enough intelligent to be able to read through my bad writing.... Adding the fact that i am in no way a specialist...
Then i thank you for your underlining of my enthusiasm... If i had a little representation of what timbre is like you have it seems, admit simply with me that many here dont....And that explain all.....
My main point for all audiophiles was clear also, the mechanical, electrical and acoustical embeddings of the system/house/room make a powerful impact on the perception of timbre in audio experience, even more perhaps than the choice of a turntable or a dac... That is my experience after 2 years of experiments by the way with my own devices....
Happy new year...
