Article: "Spin Me Round: Why Vinyl is Better Than Digital"


Article: "Spin Me Round: Why Vinyl is Better Than Digital"

I am sharing this for those with an interest. I no longer have vinyl, but I find the issues involved in the debates to be interesting. This piece raises interesting issues and relates them to philosophy, which I know is not everyone's bag. So, you've been warned. I think the philosophical ideas here are pretty well explained -- this is not a journal article. I'm not advocating these ideas, and am not staked in the issues -- so I won't be debating things here. But it's fodder for anyone with an interest, I think. So, discuss away!

https://aestheticsforbirds.com/2019/11/25/spin-me-round-why-vinyl-is-better-than-digital/amp/?fbclid...
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Frogman, for all your experience you still don't get this recording and playback process. I am glad you complained about microphone position. Few recording engineers are overly familiar with effective live ensemble recording. They know what they were taught but can't visually the sound field and make bad decisions.

However it's all moot. The only thing you can record is what reaches the microphone. All else is periphery and deflection. If you want to accurately capture what reaches that microphone analog does not do that and has not need as good at doing that for 2+ decades.

When you accept that digital can record and playback vinyl without being able to tell the two apart you have to accept that vinyl is no more colorations or a transfer function of you will no different from the many used day in and day out in the recording industry. You may play an instrument but you seem oblivious to what happens after the sound reaches the microphone.
The only thing you can record is what reaches the microphone. All else is periphery and deflection.
In a LIVE theather when someone listen to a violin what he hears cannot be exactly reproduced PRECISELY because each chosen different TYPES of microphones, the list is here,

https://www.gearank.com/articles/types-of-mics

All types of microphone will register a different perspective, a different sounding timbre dynamic, not only because also the sound will be different in different theater or studio acoustic, but because the locations of the one or many mic will give a different experience....

Timbre dynamic emerging from a specific room and embodied in a musician gesture CANNOT be perfectly recorded....mic choices are always trade-off.... simple....

What you call" periphery and deflection" participate of the essential dynamic of the timbre flowing toward the mic chosen in a positive and sometimes negative way.... Recording in a church is not recording in a studio or in a room ...These acoustic choices participate to the goal...

Then analog or digital format being equal, the only question is how can i recreate a musical event in my room ?

The analog format or the digital format being equivalent mathematically speaking, it is the ACOUSTIC controls in the listener room like the acoustical control in the player studio that are the essential factor...

Not the choice of a format at all....Save the fact i dont contest that some prefer analog....

Then denigrating turntable lover for their choice has no sense at all....
Man, you’re a piece of work. First you accuse me of lying and now I am oblivious.
First, could you please rewrite your last paragraph, I have no idea what it is you are trying to say; except for the last sentence and I don’t think this is for lack of understanding on my part.

Look it’s quite simple for me. I have been making a living playing music at a high level for 45 years and part of being successful at this is learning to trust one’s ears. I know what my ears tell me. I trust my ears and they tell me that ON BALANCE, well implemented analog gets closer to the sound of real than does digital. Not always by a lot, but enough for it to matter to me based on my sonic and musical priorities. You seem to want to fall back on the technical and/or theoretical aspects of it all. The sound of music and its playback is much more fluid and elusive than that for a variety of reasons; not the least of which is the human element. You obviously have different sonic priorities than I do. I’m cool with that. Can you say the same? Or, do you feel better thinking that I am clueless and that I am lying about all this?

From my first post here:

The most interesting question for me is why it is that some are so hellbent on trying to convince me that I don’t hear what I do hear.




No one is trying to convince you that you are not hearing what you are claiming to hear. They are telling you it has nothing to do with vinyl, that vinyl absolutely does not have superior signal recreation capability, that what you hear is purely the particular recording and personal preference. That digital is more capable of whatever nuance you may claim which should be self evident given you can record vinyl on digital and play it back and not be able to distinguish the two.


I am also saying your claim that recording engineers think analog/vinyl is more "real" on average is made up.
The most interesting question for me is why it is that some are so hellbent on trying to convince me that I don’t hear what I do hear.
Scientism is the superstition or fetichism of the reality of material object absolutely outside of consciousness...

Someone posess by that materialist metaphysic cannot understand qualitative essential dimensions of experience otherwise than negating  them or reducing them to "subjective" nothingness...

Music is only bits for them....

Tomorrow A. I. will play piano better they said...




Then when you used your own ears experience you commit for the scientism the sin of deluding yourself....

Who can forgive you?




Goethe corrected Newton about his corpuscular metaphysical theory of colors but the lesson was never learned... Goethe succeed in describing colors phenomena and grounding his theory in the first physiologycal explanation of the experience...

But Goethe is a bit hard to chew for most....


Ansermet is the Goethe of music..... 😊

My best to you....


«Musical nuances are not made of bits, like the colors are not made by the Newton corpuscules» Anonymus Smith




« Do you dare to say that 2 equivalent mathematical objects can anyway differ ?» In real life yes.....

« I am sure now that you dont know the Fourier analysis translation of these 2 objects....» 😁