@celtic66 ,
"Has anyone here clearly and profoundly won a toxic argument whereby the opposing party simply acquiesced, admitted fault and gave thanks for pointing out their complete lack of understanding and pillock-like nature?"
Me neither.
Although I am sometimes surprised to find, usually many months later, that my opponent might then be espousing quite different statements from those previously.
The reverse also happens. Certain opinions I was ridiculing about the pandemic back in March 2020 don’t seem quite so conspiratorial now.
These often cherished self beliefs are not things we are likely to change in the course of an argument are they? However they can eventually give in to contradictory opinion if given long enough.
This is why propaganda is so effective.
@mahgister,
"But the anonymity of these forums make people resembling more to their own dark shadow than to their real self...(C.G.Jung)"
Or maybe the shadow is their real self?
The one they themselves may not even be aware of?
Don’t long term married partners sometimes tell each other things like ’I know you better than you do!’?
"Has anyone here clearly and profoundly won a toxic argument whereby the opposing party simply acquiesced, admitted fault and gave thanks for pointing out their complete lack of understanding and pillock-like nature?"
Me neither.
Although I am sometimes surprised to find, usually many months later, that my opponent might then be espousing quite different statements from those previously.
The reverse also happens. Certain opinions I was ridiculing about the pandemic back in March 2020 don’t seem quite so conspiratorial now.
These often cherished self beliefs are not things we are likely to change in the course of an argument are they? However they can eventually give in to contradictory opinion if given long enough.
This is why propaganda is so effective.
@mahgister,
"But the anonymity of these forums make people resembling more to their own dark shadow than to their real self...(C.G.Jung)"
Or maybe the shadow is their real self?
The one they themselves may not even be aware of?
Don’t long term married partners sometimes tell each other things like ’I know you better than you do!’?