Perfect Path "Solutions" (PPS) eMat

"Simple test, would you like to work with someone like you? If you think you are a jerk, you are one."

I see very limited value in this test from an organizational success standpoint. It sounds all very good, but it does not reflect the reality of a high performance company (or people for that matter). 


I would rather work with a total jerk who gets things done and is reliable versus someone who is fun and amiable and totally useless. Someone who is less performance oriented may prefer that amiable useless person over the high performance jerk.  Different roles require different skill sets.


You don't treat someone with respect you know nothing about because you have nothing to respect. You should treat them with basic decency, but respect is something that is earned.

Most high performance people I know and have met are fairly aggressive at least in those what I would call formative or active years of their career, and certainly as it surrounds their work/career. It is usually later in life / far outside work they shed that side of them, till pushed. The ones that were washed out were the ones that were not nearly as bright or special as they thought they were and hence never lived up to their own billing.  Elon Musk, Steve Jobs, Andy Grove, Mark Zuckerberg .... not known for being the easiest people to work for.


What are we trying to achieve here? The best sound. Period. What that is will be different for everyone, but the goal is the same. The best sound. Period again for emphasis.  The "jerk" who is right, is going to get you to the goal of the best sound if you listen. The amiable wrong person is not.

Everyone wants to blame the jerk who is right, because it is easier than blaming themselves for taking the advice of the amiable person who was wrong. The amiable person doesn't reveal our own inadequacies, the jerk does.

You haven't dealt with a lot of really smart driven people have you? :-) They tend to display their "humility" by plowing through whatever is in their way to achieve success.

True sometimes but not always but has more to do with being "driven" than smart.   

@mapman ,

I was responding to this post:

isochronism2,511 posts01-28-2021 9:34pmTRUE intelligence realize's it's own lack of knowledge, hence will display humility.

It has not been my experience that truly brilliant people are overly humble and certainly not in their area of expertise and not when met with ignorance.

I see very limited value in this test from an organizational success standpoint.

Ultimate question are there to be applied in ourself for ourself....i think jetter was proposing a self reflective moment to you and to me and to all...You missed the point....

I am pretty sure jetter was not thinking about an organizational standpoint and waiting for his test to be scored by a team of manager....😁

I would rather work with a total jerk who gets things done and is reliable versus someone who is fun and amiable and totally useless.

Like often here you use a "sophism" , your alternative is a fake one Impliying a vicious circle...
1-All Jerks will make anything to do the work done...By all means...
2- there is a job to be done...
3- we need a jerk to be sure the job will be done...

The problem here is that anyone fun and amiable other than a jerk can also do the job...The conclusion you arrived at is already contained in your premises... It is called a vicious circle.... But you have decided that the jerk beat all amiable and fun already... Your back tought is simple.... The job must be done at any cost.....Even at a human cost.... Collateral damage it is called...Oregonpapa here was this collateral damage of your "expertise"....

You don’t treat someone with respect you know nothing about because you have nothing to respect

This one explain all...Basic human consideration ask for the respect of any human being, even hydrocephalus one over any "job" asking to be done...Ask your father if he waited your maturity for giving you respect? Or does he wait til "job" done? Respect is being REAL when it is not a money of exhange, it is a basic trust between human ... Basic respect must be spontaneous and all time for all people...I must respect you without waiting for anything.... I tried, but it was difficult i am not perfect like you are not either....I tend to disrespect some attitude... It is my defect and own fault.... I apologize for that...

What are we trying to achieve here? The best sound. Period. What that is will be different for everyone, but the goal is the same. The best sound. Period again for emphasis. The "jerk" who is right, is going to get you to the goal of the best sound if you listen. The amiable wrong person is not.

Everyone wants to blame the jerk who is right, because it is easier than blaming themselves for taking the advice of the amiable person who was wrong. The amiable person doesn’t reveal our own inadequacies, the jerk does.

There is no "job" to be done here.... It is an audiophile thread.... People partake experiences and know perfectly well that the ABSOLUTE GOOD sound dont exist in any normal room and any normal gear.... Only optimal S.Q. in some level that they all learn with their own differences and histories in audio...

Then the fallacy of your reasoning excusing yourself to be rude because of a "job" that must be done is complete bullshit...

Sorry to say so.....

Your last words are something.... You are right and totally wrong at the same times...

You are right the difficult person confront us.... It is a lesson to learn about ourself and you are right...

But you are totally wrong thinking this is your personal mission to enlighten all people here at all cost only by ourself...

But your post imply that...

Go back to the jetter test now you are ready to pass it....You know that it is not a manager test now.... But a mirror where each of us MUST glance....

I apologize to you because i have been rude myself with you,.... But i am not perfect and i have difficulties when i see victims imaginary one and real one...

My best to you.....

I used to work with a guy who would take forever to make his point which was a terrible waste of time in a busy day. Worse, he would call from his office even though he worked 45 feet away. He would watch for people to enter their office, and then call them.  He did that to me once, and I did not answer the phone.  I watched the phone "flash" which it did when someone was leaving a message. 2 minutes later it was still flashing, they were still talking.  I opened my voicemail and listened to 30 seconds of rambling. I never made it to the end, I just deleted the message.  About 2-3 hours later he graced me with his presence and asked if I got his voicemail. I told him after 30 seconds, since he had not made his point, and it was not even clear why he was calling, I deleted his message.