What is the Silliest Accessory You Have Ever Seen.

Can you get it that I am NOT criticizing or dismissing Zappa's music?  I am only saying that most people are not so familiar with his music as they are with his persona or his appearance, or both of those.  And it's only my opinion; I don't insist on the absolute accuracy of that observation.  I have no stats to back it up.
Mahgister, To answer a question with an insult to the intelligence of the person who asked the question is not helpful or informative.  Also, please leave dear Groucho out of this.  What is the exact opposite of "production of consciousness BY the brain"?  Where can consciousness come from if not the brain?  Leave out spiritual or religious allusions.

Mahgister, To answer a question with an insult to the intelligence of the person who asked the question is not helpful or informative.

You are right and i apologize another time for being impatient or rude to you...

But in this thread i have been mocked often then....my neuron short circuited...

I deeply regret my tone with you.... Your question was genuine...

In a word, because it is a complex question....

For Penrose itself it is the totality of the cosmos quantum stuff that work his way in the microtubules... i will not repeat with my bad english what you can read in this short introductory article:

This is the introduction:

« The ‘Orch OR’ theory (Hameroff & Penrose, 1996a, 2014) attributes consciousness to quantum computations in microtubules inside brain neurons. Quantum computers process ‘superpositions’ of possibilities (quantum bits or ‘qubits’) which unify by entanglement, evolve and compute, until reduction, or ‘collapse’ to definite output states. Nobel laureate Sir Roger Penrose (1989) proposed that reduction occurred spontaneously due to an objective threshold in the fine-scale structure of the universe (‘objective reduction’, ‘OR’) at time t = ħ/EG, where ħ is the PlanckDirac constant, and EG the gravitational self-energy of the superposition. At each such OR moment, Penrose further proposed, random (proto-) conscious moments of experience occur, composed of basic ‘qualia,’ the most specific scientific proposal for phenomenal experience (the ‘hard problem’) yet put forth (Hameroff & Penrose, 1996b). Were there ‘orchestrated’ quantum computers and qubits in the brain which could reduce by OR to produce full, rich conscious moments?»



https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/17588928.2020.1839037?needAccess=true&



Penrose could  be wrong for sure it is only daily science...

But anyway the paradigm of the " brain produce consciousness" is dead.... By all account of changing waves of information coming from many fields....

That is my point...

My best to you from my heart....

Hi mijostyn,
Yes, It's much more fun to have things in common. I was fortunate to see Frank perform twice. He has so much music, and I only have a small sampling.
Grand Wazoo
Overnight Sensation
200 Motels
Zappa Wazoo
We're only in it for the Money
Just Another Band from LA
Shut Up and Play yer Guitar
Hot Rats
Live at the Fillmore 
 

@mijostyn : Never mind. Perhaps what is really silly ( for say the least. ) is that m gentleman who posted:

""  I listen eyes open in my dark room and it is better for imaging perception because i....."""

and " 3 minutes " latter   this same gentleman posted: 

"  I listen eye open half time only and not in a complete dark room..."

R.

Never mind. Perhaps what is really silly ( for say the least. ) is that m gentleman who posted:

"" I listen eyes open in my dark room and it is better for imaging perception because i....."""

and " 3 minutes " latter this same gentleman posted:

" I listen eye open half time only and not in a complete dark room..."

Sorry but correcting a post in a 5 minutes interval after realizing we had made a mistake in our own description dont make the writer silly...

But posting that like a proof of his stupidity surely dont speak so great about the poster...

Try not rejecting your problem on ME.....