Has anybody bought or heard a Chinese knock off amplifier?


There are a lot clones coming out of China and power amplifiers seem to be along for the ride.
Mark Levinson, Goldmund, and Accuphase are some of the big names I see replica’s being advertised for sale. These replica’s range in price from $500-$2000. My curiosity every time I see these always is do they even sound like the brand they are trying copy? Another thought that comes to my mind when I see them is, are they even safe or reliable. I myself wouldn’t touch one of these, but that’s me. Has anybody heard one? If so it would be interesting to hear some opinions regarding these amplifiers.
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I'll keep my comment focused solely on audiophile equipment manufacturing. There's definitely a shift in consumer mindset when it comes to what the somewhat 'seasoned' generation of audiophiles values and prioritizes when buying audio gear. If you look at well-known and well-respected audio companies in the western hemisphere and Japan, a few attributes stand out (in no particular order): high fidelity, very high standards when it comes to design and manufacturing, emphasis on long-term reliability (we're talking 20+ years), and pride in craftsmanship and ownership.

The younger audiophile generation is different. Instead of craftsmanship and pride of ownership, its mental model revolves around 'planned obsolescence' and a 'data driven' mindset. Whether it's electronics, clothes, shoes, cars, you name it, they 'expect' things to not last more than a few years. That's how we have been conditioned -- 'I'll just buy a new one in two years!'

The Chinese audio business model is a great fit for this new mindset. We want the cheapest possible audio equipment with reasonable, just good enough, quality and performance. Why should I pay for some overbuilt Pass Labs or Boulder amp when I'm going to end up replacing in a couple of years anyways? Why do I need to worry about repairs if the technology will be obsolete in a few years anyways?

Now let's talk about the so-called 'data driven' mindset. If you read the forums, it becomes apparent fairly quickly that 'measurements' is the new game in town. In fact, it's the only game in town. Listening is optional! It's no surprise that the low-end of the Chinese audio industry has latched on to this as an opportunity to gain market share. We've moved from an artisan approach to one that's focused on numbers alone. People used to buy based on the designer's reputation (Nelson Pass, Bob Carver, etc.), now they base their decisions on charts and graphs. Again, listening is not required.

Unfortunately, the US and European audiophile industry will follow the same path as the manufacturing and electronics industries in the last 20+ years, i.e. fade into oblivion. They are burdened with comparatively high labor and R&D costs, IP regulations, and a capital market that rewards short-term profits. The Chinese manufacturers don't need to worry about any of the above. 
Now let's talk about the so-called 'data driven' mindset. If you read the forums, it becomes apparent fairly quickly that 'measurements' is the new game in town. In fact, it's the only game in town. Listening is optional! It's no surprise that the low-end of the Chinese audio industry has latched on to this as an opportunity to gain market share. We've moved from an artisan approach to one that's focused on numbers alone. People used to buy based on the designer's reputation (Nelson Pass, Bob Carver, etc.), now they base their decisions on charts and graphs. Again, listening is not required.

Unfortunately, the US and European audiophile industry will follow the same path as the manufacturing and electronics industries in the last 20+ years, i.e. fade into oblivion. They are burdened with comparatively high labor and R&D costs, IP regulations, and a capital market that rewards short-term profits. The Chinese manufacturers don't need to worry about any of the above.
Thanks for you wise observations indeed....

My best to you....
Another question should be Are there very good Chinese high end audio products out there that do their own research to make a quality product and not infringe upon international patents?
cayin 80 class A hybrid amp,preamp very nice sound for under $2800 beats most at over $4k
dweller,

"glupson - You failed to mention that I capitalized the word "Hate" in the last sentence.
Pretty sloppy..."

I might have overestimated your style. I thought that capitalized "Hate" is a stylistic figure of giving it presence, demonizing it in some way, rather than another example of your poor writing skills.

Please forgive my sloppiness. At least until you learn how to get your writing skills close to a non-native speaker/writer level.