Ready, set, comment! Speaker cables don’t make a difference?

petg60, that is exactly how people get sucker punched. The last thing you want to do is trust your ears. They will lead you astray all over the place.
If you want a really exceptional system by all means listen but understand you can be easily fooled especially if you have not trained your ears to know what flat and time aligned sounds like. Most people here are trying to function without a known reference in a situation were the frequency response of their system in their room can be +- 20 dB. In order to tell whether or not anything is making a difference you have to AB it multiple times preferably blind. In many instances what you think sounds better at first listening really does not and may even be worse.

Many people are listening to what I call exaggerated sound, boosted highs or mid bass (to make up for lack of real low end.) usually not caused by equipment but by the room. They mistake this for detail when in reality it is hiding detail. Measure or have your room measured. The graph will make you sick.

Throwing up room treatment without knowing what your room is actually doing is another extraordinary thing to do. Yes, you will change the sound in many instances making it worse. This is how I know "bass traps" do not work. I have measured them several times in different systems. All they do is absorb or redirect high frequencies, nothing else.

petg60, that is exactly how people get sucker punched. The last thing you want to do is trust your ears. They will lead you astray all over the place.

If i had listen to your advice i will never had what i had now...

No electronic equalizer can help with a room complete control, only fine tune the speakers response to the room for a very limited narrow spot in millimeter....

It is way better using the ears to fine tune all the room FOR this specific speakers with your ears...A mechanical equalizer COST NOTHING at all...

If you measure my room you must measure also my ears to understand WHY the sound appear good to me.... I am not a microphone by the way....

My S.Q. is so good to me that any system at any cost does not give me the urge to upgrade.... Not so much the wrong way you claim it is is’n it?....

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i prefer advising people about a no cost product and a fun learning experiment than your way of selling a costly and not up to the task product....I prefer to sell creativity and trust in ourself than mistrust of the most important learning tool : our ears....

Throwing up room treatment without knowing what your room is actually doing is another extraordinary thing to do. Yes, you will change the sound in many instances making it worse

This last sentence from you is misleading...It takes time but anybody can correct and fine tune his room one step at a time.... The only cost is time... The time to learn... The time to have fun.... The time to reach the optimal result....

The important thing is the rewarding result at no cost and at the end no negative trade-off like with an electronic equalization that work for a mic and a very narrow set of test frequencies response... The ears/brain dont work with frequency but with a relatively large band set of frequencies called a human voice timbre....The ears/brain work with the first wavefront which is different for each ear, coming from different reflective surface at different time, the ears/brain does not work naturally with a tested frequency....

To even posit such an argument is ridiculous. Of course speaker cables make a (huge) difference. Sorry, but even a low level of critical listening experience reveals this to be the case very quickly. How large the gap is when comparing various cables coupled with speakers does vary based on the “sensitivity” of the speakers, but anyone that claims they make no difference plainly have no credibility in this hobby because their listening skills are either grossly deficient or they simply don’t take the time. The same speakers can sound sublime with one set of speaker cables (this matters arguably just as much with component  interconnects) and unlistenable with another set of speaker cables. Btw, price of the cables isn’t linear with the resulting sound quality either.

Why you guys had to mentioned his chin?

Now that weed is legal in NY State, it ain’t as much fun, as the late great John Hartford once said.

BUT, dollars on weed is way better spent - and much much cheaper - than $s on cable and speaker interconnects. And as an added bonus: it makes sex and Hagen Das taste so much better too.