Hi Mitch,
As if it isn’t clear enough: I’m not accusing anyone or any company of "fraud."
You brought up the subject of "IF <--- note the "If" - a company sold a product that doesn’t do what it claims, but some people believe it and pay for it, what’s the harm?"
I was curious how the logic of your take on that has implications in other consumer areas. But I guess you don’t want to play that out to see the implications.
As I have said a billion times here: I’m fully supportive of anyone buying whatever they want for whatever reason! If someone doesn’t give a damn about objective verification, tries a product, "hears" something that makes him happy and he wants to pay for it...GREAT for that person! Nobody should be forced in to any particular method of buying gear. Follow your bliss. So you seem to have made some incorrect inference about my attitude.
All I’m saying is: what’s wrong with anyone testing a product using objective data, relevant to the claims made for the product? As I said, isn’t the more information we have for a product the better, given the wide range of approaches many audiophiles bring to the hobby? If you don’t care about certain objective data, don’t bother with it. If you do, then it’s nice to have it available.
As for SR’s products: Anyone who likes the products and buys them on their own subjective impressions, enjoy!
Personally I’d prefer to see some of the claims objectively verified by another technically competent party, before I would be ready to buy such things. Which is why I’d like to see Gene take up SR’s offer. That would be fun and possibly very interesting. And like I said, I would actually like it if SR’s products had some objective verification. That would be cool, and it would increase my own interest in the products...who knows maybe even purchasing one of them.
But, again, that’s my personal criteria for certain products, and I begrudge no one who takes a different approach.
(I’m not going to insult people as "clowns" etc as I have received from others on this thread. I respect anyone’s right to practice the hobby in the way they enjoy).
Cheers!
(I think I’m outta this thread. If Gene measures the stuff I’m sure there will be another thread on the outcome).
As if it isn’t clear enough: I’m not accusing anyone or any company of "fraud."
You brought up the subject of "IF <--- note the "If" - a company sold a product that doesn’t do what it claims, but some people believe it and pay for it, what’s the harm?"
I was curious how the logic of your take on that has implications in other consumer areas. But I guess you don’t want to play that out to see the implications.
As I have said a billion times here: I’m fully supportive of anyone buying whatever they want for whatever reason! If someone doesn’t give a damn about objective verification, tries a product, "hears" something that makes him happy and he wants to pay for it...GREAT for that person! Nobody should be forced in to any particular method of buying gear. Follow your bliss. So you seem to have made some incorrect inference about my attitude.
All I’m saying is: what’s wrong with anyone testing a product using objective data, relevant to the claims made for the product? As I said, isn’t the more information we have for a product the better, given the wide range of approaches many audiophiles bring to the hobby? If you don’t care about certain objective data, don’t bother with it. If you do, then it’s nice to have it available.
As for SR’s products: Anyone who likes the products and buys them on their own subjective impressions, enjoy!
Personally I’d prefer to see some of the claims objectively verified by another technically competent party, before I would be ready to buy such things. Which is why I’d like to see Gene take up SR’s offer. That would be fun and possibly very interesting. And like I said, I would actually like it if SR’s products had some objective verification. That would be cool, and it would increase my own interest in the products...who knows maybe even purchasing one of them.
But, again, that’s my personal criteria for certain products, and I begrudge no one who takes a different approach.
(I’m not going to insult people as "clowns" etc as I have received from others on this thread. I respect anyone’s right to practice the hobby in the way they enjoy).
Cheers!
(I think I’m outta this thread. If Gene measures the stuff I’m sure there will be another thread on the outcome).