Speakers The single most critical component


I know we've been over this Q hundreds of X's over the past 20 years here on audion, You can find dozen of topics dealing with this Q <which is the ,,,,most important component...>>
well time for yet 1 more topic dealing with this,, perhaps unanswered, un-resolved issue.
I'm bringing up the old hachet due to my recent experience acutally hearinga FR in my system. 
Let me tell you, there is not even 1 traditional/conventioanl/xover design <The Boxed Type>> in the world that could convince me  , there is something that will beat out FR (caveat, FR requires  some sort of high sens =sensitivity, tweeter)  in  the Boxy world of speakers.
That is to say, FR + Compression Horn is the future of 21st Century high fidelity. 
One lab has already brought us these ~~~SHF~~~ aka SuperHighFidelity  single drivers. 
The code word here is ~~SHF~~~ which can not never be employed when describing xover/trad/conventioanl style  aka The Box designs. db level under 91 are _<<IN-EFFICIENT>> , = dysfunctional, out dated, old school , = Dinasaurs. 
For amps, I only consider tube amps (PP and SET) as ~~SHF~~~ I can not include ss amps in this topic. 
IMHO all well made tube amps sound very close,
 a  kt88 in brand X will sound  close to brand Y. 
So amplification takes a  distant 2nd place in critical component.  No need to break the bank buying amp A vs  a  lower priced kt88 amp B
CD players, nearly all  tube DAC's , tube cdp-ers sound  close. No need to braek the bank over X vs Y.
My Jadis DAC is  only miniscule gain over the Shanling,
 the Shanling
only a  miniscule gain over the Cayin CD17. 
Now as for  best source  , phonograph is the ideal playback medium vs cds. 
I have some LP's now , but my main collection are classical cds, most not on LP version. Cables , I did note some gains employing silver/copper wiring throughout my entire system including inside the Defy.
Tweak worthy.
New Mundorf caps in all componets, tweak worthy. 
Yet the main central component remaisn the speakers.
Here is where  the entire audio resolution either rises to Nirvana or falls to <<distortion/muddy waters,/pollution/anti-fidelity  voicing  issues.
Your system's fidelity is ultimately dependent on what speaker  you have chosen to employ.
Forget all you've learned over the years, 
The new mantra is <,The speaker is key component>
All else is just extra tweaks/nuances. 
To sum up, a  ~~SHF~~ driver will match even the top of line Wilson weighing in at hundreds of lbs priced $$$$$$$ overa single FR driver. 
FR beats out any/all xover box design speakers. Mostly due to that key specification ~~db level~~~ which is everything in speaker design and thus in resolution/fidelity. 

mozartfan
@op 

Have to disagree that the speaker is the most important. The room is the most important followed by system synergy. Every part of the system is important. The speaker can have the biggest impact from a sonic signature standpoint, but that doesn't make it the most important. Whats important about a speaker in my mind is the it has the kind of sonic signature that is pleasing to the listener and that it is a good match for the room it is being placed in. 

I am a big fan of full range drivers and have built many of them. They have their place, and sound amazing to my ears when matched with the right amplifier and music. They have their limitations however. And I think your logic around how much better a larger FR driver will sound, is flawed. As they get bigger, they have a greater difficulty with transients and sibilants. Go bigger than 8", and it becomes a factor. 6 1/2" seems to be a sweet spot for bass response (pending driver and cabinet design) while maintaining nice high frequencies.

Now, a 10", 12" or 15" coax is a different story. But, then you are dealing with a crossover...
If no one said it, the speaker is the only item in the reproduction chain which effects the pattern of sound dispersion in the room.  For those of us who like eg omnis, bipoles, dipoles, open baffle, and wide dispersion boxes, these differences are more significant than one can achieve by changes in other components.

Yes room treatments affect this also.
Have to disagree that the speaker is the most important. The room is the most important followed by system synergy.
I am glad to be with another audiophile with common sense....

Almost no existing design with the usual technology could nullify or exceed the acoustic control of the room...

Someone not knowing that is the victim of marketing hypnosis or delude itself with a product which is related to what most people called their "taste"...Speakers design is always TRADE_OFF not a miracle cures of all problem...

By the way a natural sounding instrument timbre is a fact not a "taste" ....Imaging and listener envelopment are acoustical factors not "taste"....


Yes room treatments affect this also.
Any speaker need room acoustic control to reach his peak working possibility.... And no passive material treatment can do it only by itself in a room under 20 feet....Sorry....

Reverberation time is useful if we know how to use it with the timing of early and late reflections using also ACTIVE mechanical control to adapt the speakers limitations and ENHANCE them with the room controls (Helmholtz resonators grid).....

Ignoring acoustic put you in the arm of speakers publicity designers market....

Give me any speaker for a small room  i will adapt the room to it and he will sound next to a very costlier speakers...
@berner99  

Agree that the speakers have the biggest effect on the signature of the sound - ESL's, horns, Full Rangers, Omnis, open baffle etc. I just feel like the signature is a taste and preference thing. Once someone settles on a style of speaker, there are ranges of quality within that style. And then matching gear is needed in order to get the synergy right and get the most out of the speakers.

Splitting hairs I guess, but when a direction has been established, then all equipment is of equal importance. If I want to change up the sound, the source remains the same, but amplification changes with the choice of speakers I'm listening to.
If I want to change up the sound, the source remains the same, but amplification changes with the choice of speakers I’m listening to.
Same thing than for amplifier and speakers ,it is very easy to buy a "relatively good source" nowadays...

Creating passive material treatment for a room and especially active mechanical controls to complement and enhance it is way more difficult...

People are hypnotized by pricing gear product, less so by acoustic and psychoacoustic fact....

Under 20 feet room space only acoustic matter to reach heaven with almost any " relatively good for basic gear "...

Why 20 feet?

Because it is easy to control TIMING under some acoustic treshold and use it for your benefit...

A very big room is more costly to control....

My room control 13 feet square cost me nothing to be controlled...