What do we hear when we change the direction of a wire?


Douglas Self wrote a devastating article about audio anomalies back in 1988. With all the necessary knowledge and measuring tools, he did not detect any supposedly audible changes in the electrical signal. Self and his colleagues were sure that they had proved the absence of anomalies in audio, but over the past 30 years, audio anomalies have not disappeared anywhere, at the same time the authority of science in the field of audio has increasingly become questioned. It's hard to believe, but science still cannot clearly answer the question of what electricity is and what sound is! (see article by A.J.Essien).

For your information: to make sure that no potentially audible changes in the electrical signal occur when we apply any "audio magic" to our gear, no super equipment is needed. The smallest step-change in amplitude that can be detected by ear is about 0.3dB for a pure tone. In more realistic situations it is 0.5 to 1.0dB'". This is about a 10% change. (Harris J.D.). At medium volume, the voltage amplitude at the output of the amplifier is approximately 10 volts, which means that the smallest audible difference in sound will be noticeable when the output voltage changes to 1 volt. Such an error is impossible not to notice even using a conventional voltmeter, but Self and his colleagues performed much more accurate measurements, including ones made directly on the music signal using Baxandall subtraction technique - they found no error even at this highest level.

As a result, we are faced with an apparently unsolvable problem: those of us who do not hear the sound of wires, relying on the authority of scientists, claim that audio anomalies are BS. However, people who confidently perceive this component of sound are forced to make another, the only possible conclusion in this situation: the electrical and acoustic signals contain some additional signal(s) that are still unknown to science, and which we perceive with a certain sixth sense.

If there are no electrical changes in the signal, then there are no acoustic changes, respectively, hearing does not participate in the perception of anomalies. What other options can there be?

Regards.
anton_stepichev
Dletch2
The op asked a question. He received an answer. Unfortunately he did not like that answer. He is looking for an answer that will not now, nor ever be correct.
Neither you nor djones51 answered the question, you just expressed your humble opinion about the audibility of the wires (bias and placebo = BS). You are not asked to talk about these rather trivial things, but you are plugging your ears and repeating your bias mantra non-stop in every post.

I want to remind you that you accused me of libel and said that you proved it. I am waiting for your proof, or do you not care about your reputation?
It's rather amusing that you consider bias as trivial but hearing unknown signals with a sixth sense is meaningful. 
Biases are NOT and NEVER are a trivial fact, biases are complex and they are from different sources and could be positive or negative, eliminated, learned, reinforced,conscious, unconscious, innnate or not and transmitted like disease....And this is precisely because of that they also apply to disclaimers....If it was a cable pretense on the market it will be easy to put it on test.... But here it is SOMETHING ELSE....

Explaining any new experience and dismissing it on the basis of an alleged bias IS SOMETIMES trivial and cannot explain anything ESPECIALLY like in this case if the new experience was itself learned, and "blackboxed" already itself by one or many persons involved...

Then invoking trivially a bias is simply dismissing something on the spot and itself reflecting a bias, refusing to considerate anything further and excluding any further experiments and discussion which will derange a "status quo" or a belief or an acquired knowledge....

Blindtest is before being a "public" test a private one.... This is call "blackbox" experiment...Anton has already take many blackbox tests by himself and with others ....He is not alone with this experiment....

Absence of openness and arrogance are for me the only explanation of this easy dismissal attitude...

Anton has no cable to send here.... Then no public rigorous blindtest is possible before we take him seriously and stop insulting intelligence and host....

You cannot test for pitch hearing someone who never learned pitch before ......Is it not simple to understand? The bias at play here is not necessarily an "illusion" associated with a cable.....It could be a learned bias revealing something about reality.... Like the creation of a musical instrument was in ancient times....

Personally i had no opinion, except openness...Call that "credulity" but without this no new phenomenon could never be considered....I called it trust in people....

You can dismiss someone who will propose here a "new" cable with miraculous property....I will understand your skepticism... But Someone with great dedication and work behind him could not be treated like someone with nothing save pretenses about a marketted cable....It is very simple to test a cable .... Here it is another thing.... Save for those reducing anything to the only meter they own .....





djones51
It's rather amusing that you consider bias as trivial but hearing unknown signals with a sixth sense is meaningful.

Not hearing, but feeling. In my opinion, this is the only possible explanation if you definitely feel changes where they can not be according to the physics (changing a power cable, reverse a wire or fuse) . This is just logic and apparently you can't say anything sensible about this.
We dont learn music simply by hearing it....

When i was listening to Bach "Art of the fugue" when i was young i think at first hearing that it was boring and heavy music....

I learn to hear it with my "feeling"... Feeling and playing it also help perception to increase a notch....I discover behind Bach an astonishing emotion that communicated to me the meaning behind this "boring" music and an access to his syntax...Then i listened to it and perceived it completely differently indeed...

It is my favorite work perhaps to this day..... I own many interpretations...

We dont perceive sound only by  passively hearing them without emotion or sense feeling.... Sounds can have meaning in them, like the fall of many wooden cubes on the floor could create a melody... We learn to perceive pitch ....

And sound coming from tapping can reveal if 2 invisible spheres are cavernous or not with a hidden hole inside....If we add an orifice to one of these sphere the sound of the 2 spheres could not stay identical either....If we modify the size of the aperture of one of the orifice the sound will also differ....Then if we modify the shape of the aperture we will have another sonic information... If we change the material composition of the spheres it will be the same thing , the sound will inform us differently....

Then experimenting with "directed wiring" is something we must learn to do like experimenting with information linked to spheres of different size,shape, with hole,orifice, materials, etc

Sound is not for human ONLY an external purely physical acoustical phenomenon.... It is a psychoacoustical phenomenon whose meaning is testimony of the participation of the whole human being to the phenomenon...

In psychoacoustic, acoustic and physical measures are always linked and CORRELATED to the neurophysiology of perception but also to the discerning power of the will/mind/feeling of the human being and not only to a reduced modelization of the brain like a simple computer...

Pitch perception is a complex phenomenon for example always in debate and very deep ...

No artificial tool reproduction will by itself "explain" pitch perception, no more than an artificial heart explain the heart.....

Technology is linked to science but is not by itself science....

MAP IS NEVER THE TERRITORY.... But any general need only a map to make his point in a battle.... This will not prove that the general was knowing all that is important and meaningful about the territory....Claiming that the victory in the batlle was a "proof" that the general has known ALL there is to know about this territory reveal a very common bias: confusing map and territory and mingle and confuse them to make a point....

A model is only a model , it is an artefact not reality....

Or we must believe like some wanted us to do that consciousness will be reduced to A.I. and the virtual technological new world created by men will be "better" than the one with inhabit...

Do you think seriously that virtual reality could replace reality? Transhumanist believe that....They are very clever users and creators of new tools but philosophically idiots....They are in a cult....

Some very clever even think that we can recreate life evolution with a complex series of algorythm ....

To this day no man on earth understand the prime numbers distribution....Even if our most sophisticated tool in the internet are linked to coding with primes...

Just few years ago a new fact about primes was discovered and let mathematician flabbergasted....Prime has "BIASES" contrary to the statistical random hypothesis about them which our most successful tools to study them ask for to begin with....

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/peculiar-pattern-found-in-random-prime-numbers/