Open Baffle Opinions - I Won't go back to Boxed Speakers Evr Again (maybe....)

Excellent comments from all of you once again.

Here's my responses (so far) and thanks for the good advice :

1. The side wing (a la NX-Otica's - Danny Richie - I watch his Video's too) idea is one I will try 1st and foremost. Makes sense and he gives an excellent explanation why as you mention too. It's the center focus problem. I have enough material that I can temporarily make a side wall on top of the 1.5" thick side panels of the H-Frame Woofers.
2. Build a box around just the Midwoofers leaving just the 12" Woofers and the Tweeters Dipole. Changing the crossover points from 250Hz - 2500Hz to 120Hz - 2500Hz won't be hard. I have lots of Inductors laying around that I can cobble something together. Lowering the 12" Woofers LPF  to 120Hz is a snap with miniDSP.
3. Placement currently is 5ft. exactly from the "front" (TV) wall to the back of the H-Frame Subs (5', 9" to the Midbass/Tweeter Baffle). Right side is only 2.5ft. from the room's side wall and the left side is a whopping 7", 4" from the entrance/side pocket opening/WINDOW (I have to draw it out for you Guys), Also on the right side the Speaker face a Hallway. Also the swinging doors to the kitchen are wood in a glass frame window embedded. I'll take some pics and a floor plan with room dimensions.
4. Toe-in on most box Speakers friends have lent me gives me a great center phantom image when placed straight out into a room except for a pair of KEF R3's that worked best with about 10deg of toe-in.

Thanks again for the kind words of encouragement.

BTW, I'd seen a lot of OB designs that that either integrate an H Frame stacked or not stacked Woofer cabinet below the OB Panel so my panel was tall enough (barely) to accommodate. The difference is I have no top brace/shelf in my design.

I also saw a Video with Clayton Shaw (Spatial) who suggests the upper Woofer be crossed over higher while the bottom one is X'd at 90Hz.

Baby steps but I can hear the potential.

I have owned 2 Spatial audio labs speakers ,and currently 
saving for the Exceptional X3s. They have a great minimal Xover only 3 parts, the CustomBeyma AmT midrange-Tweeter,is excellent and there is no Xover in the critical midrange from 1k on up , very efficient 97db-1watt, 12 inch mid bass , and from 90 Hz down to 25 HZ and is powered for deep clear Bass.

1. Build a box around just the Midwoofers leaving just the 12" Woofers and the Tweeters Dipole. Changing the crossover points from 250Hz - 2500Hz to 120Hz - 2500Hz won't be hard. I have lots of Inductors laying around that I can cobble something together. Lowering the 12" Woofers LPF to 120Hz is a snap with miniDSP.

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man you are way ahead of my DIYer skills. I have no idea what you are talking about. 
However , though i do lack the science and deeper understanding of these things,,does not mean i am not willing to do some DIY stuff on my own. 
I just shipped back the Seas Fa22rcz after 15  minutes of testing .
So I am back to the drawng board,
Going witha  Davidlouis Lowther/Voxativ clone. The 2020 version,  the 8 incher. 

so my New Thor design will be dual W18 E001's + the Lowther/Vox clone 8. 
Adam at Madisound on <my> new Thor said of it,~~sounds like you got a  real Frankensteinspeaker going on there~~~lol, Yep, hope the 87db midbass pair up well with the 95db FR..

jimob18 posts05-10-2021 8:16pmI have owned 2 Spatial audio labs speakers ,and currently
saving for the Exceptional X3s. They have a great minimal Xover only 3 parts, the CustomBeyma AmT midrange-Tweeter,is excellent and there is no Xover in the critical midrange from 1k on up , very efficient 97db-1watt, 12 inch mid bass , and from 90 Hz down to 25 HZ and is powered for deep clear Bass.


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Sounds really nice what you got going on there.

I just cked out Beyma's cp750TI horns, weighing in at 15 lbs each!!!!
Really nice, 
But have to pass up these massive  and tempting , horns. 
Staying with a  FR + midbass design. 
The FR goes up into the 10k-15k range, and thats all I need.
I have no interest at all past 15k as 99% of classical music has nothing at all past 15k.
Sure a horn goes right up to 20k. 
But for what purpose????
zero interest. 
As well  these  , high tech compression mid tweets , have incredible sensitivity at 100-120 db sens. 
Again for what purpose??
My amp is a  true 100 watt PP.
On midrange/highs I look  for 94/95 sens. Even 97db is too high. 
I listen extremely near field in my small room  , so anything higher than 95db is a overkill.

Over 95db on a  full range, this would mean gain on the linestage would be set very low, which would not allow the W18E001's to open up..
The dual W18E001's are acting like a  bass floor for the Full range.
Really  is a Frankenstein of a  speaker
I havea  pair of open baffle,, well honestly, they have 1 screw hopding the driver to the top of the Thor cabinet,, The Millennium spot is now open as a  front baffle, , took out most of the stuffing fill and placed a 1 inch pad behind each W18/
Lots of bass and sounds super. The Diatone 6.5 is far superior to the Millennium tweeter for full rich midrange/highs. Even a bit lo nice solid upper bass. 
We need to begin thinking outside the box. 
I should have made this Frankenstein pre-upgrade on the Thors. 
The loss in that upgrade project  really pushed my bottons and I came up with this New Thor design in frustration and despair. 
Suffering is the root of creativity. 

I don't process some of the technical jargon in this post but isn't the open baffle concept what the Dahlquist DQ 10 was trying to accomplish?  I own a pair and they sound fabulous..  Just curious....