Solid state amplifiers and sound stage, especially front to back "depth"


I've been enjoying my trial period with the Van Alstine SET 400 stereo amplifier. When I'm done and have collected my thoughts, I may write up a summary.

In the meantime, a question for folks with more experience. I've noticed is that the amp produces a sound stage that is nicely defined and articulate from left to right, but not as much from front to back. (My Adcom was also unable to create sound stage depth.) I know my room is capable of that sound stage because my tube amp accomplishes it.

Question: Is it typical of solid state amps to have less of a front to back sound stage than tube amps? Do they vary in this regard? Or, perhaps, am I failing to do something -- such as re-position my speakers? (After all, I immediately get that sound stage back when I switch amplifier without moving anything else.)

If you have any experience with solid state amplifiers and sound stage -- front to back, left to right, or whatever, I'm curious.

This is not about me keeping or not keeping the amp. There are many things I already really like about it. But I'm wondering about this aspect.

Thanks.
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Regarding an amp or any other electronic gear upstream’s relative ability to do imaging, it’s generally about achieving low distortion and detail retrieval. That is needed to best deliver the spatial cues that enable imaging captured in a recording completely. Then how the recording is made is the other in big factor.
Then of course the speakers setup and room acoustics determine exactly how those cues are rendered and imaging and soundstage actually produced.
The best soundstage depth Ive ever heard by a huge margin was an all mbl system with SS amplification set up in a highly customized showroom. With master recording R2R as a source you could easily identify exact location of individual orchestra instruments both front to back and side to side in a large tapered rectangular area. That was at now defunct United Home Audio in Annapolis Junction, MD several years back. Nothing else I’ve ever heard comes close on regards to precise 3-d soundstage and imaging depth. Totally holographic. Same setup by same vendor was just OK at local shows in more conventional and less optimized room setups.

In my system, holographic soundstage and imaging took a big leap forward when I introduced the Bel Canto ref1000m Class D amps to my Ohm Walsh speakers. It was totally disorienting at first until my ears latched on to what was happening. Night and day from prior Class A Musical Fidelity SS amp.
Regarding an amp or any other electronic gear upstream’s relative ability to do imaging,  it’s generally about achieving low distortion and detail retrieval. That is needed to best deliver the spatial cues that enable imaging captured in a recording completely.  
Then of course the speakers setup and room acoustics determine exactly how those cues are rendered and imaging and soundstage actually produced.
That makes sense the files in the above link I posted are to test the imaging of your system. 
Totally holographic. Same setup by same vendor was just OK at local shows in more conventional and less optimized room setups.
Very interesting post mapman...

For sure it takes a very good amplifier first but like you said and i said,  ACOUSTIC is important on the same level at least...

Are the SS amps fully burned in? I find that a 600 -800 hour burn in helps bring out subtle details in imaging.

The other thing I'm thinking is resonance and vibration.  Tube amps are more resistant to this factor.  So if not already used, good isolation devices will help.  The best in my experience are those from critical mass systems, which will take your audio to a whole new level. 

Best wishes
Skimming through other’s input I think there is another aspect that hasn’t been touched upon and that is the source recording quality. I’ve got a BAT VK-600 heavy duty solid state amp coupled with the BAT VK-5i tube amp with my Apogee ribbon speakers and I’ve found that more often than not recordings have excellent left to right, but truly great imaging that also have deep front to back complex spacing require a top quality recording engineer using the right equipment (particularly analog) and this is much rarer. This is particularly a challenge with rock recording roughly around the 80’s era. Once I hear really excellent dynamic recordings such as, for example, many of Jan Garbarek’s (ECM generally as well), Radiohead - King of Limbs, Trifonic - Emergence, just to name a few, I don’t soon forget them and I find myself returning to them like sirens as the years pass!