So you think wire conductors in cables are directional? Think again...

It's interesting that you now admit cable measurements are actually useful, and Blue Jeans Cable is very forthcoming about what they do. here's a bit of very useful info from their website. I have never bought from nor have a relationship with this company, but I do appreciate the honesty put forth.

http://www.bluejeanscable.com/articles/exoticmaterials.htm

BTW...HP test equipment is now Agilent...has been for years. Time to get yerself educated. The problem with self-education is the glaring reality that you have not been educated in the first place.

For crying out loud, what is wrong with you people? I’ve never said, implied or proffered anything saying measurements don’t matter. Just that they can’t measure everything.

You guys are bending over backwards to justify your inability to hear and having to rely on test measurements to make yourself feel better. If you can’t hear it, fine. No one is going to fault you for that. If you can’t afford it and begrudge others who can, then that’s a different kettle of fish, isn’t it?

Practically every, single argument lets slip the cost factor, even when it’s not brought up by those who are willing to pay just a little more for something that sounds better. Get over it.

As for the better accuracy of the more expensive test equipment and the negating of it since it’s not necessary for your purposes, you’re gonna have to do better than that. All sugabooger is doing is some really poor rationalizing, spilling his popcorn.

Even John Atkinson mentioned the limits of some modern day test equipment that couldn’t hold a candle to the ones he learned with in the old days. Those scopes showed more, varying info than the newer ones which showed nothing amiss.

As for HP now having a different owner and a new name and calling me out on it is juvenile, at best, and shows just how desperate you are to be right. The machine he uses still is called HP. You're bordering on moronic.

All the best,
Nonoise

In my day job, we wouldn’t trust any equipment. We actually have to characterize equipment to make sure they measure what they advertise.

Apparently, some here just google up some equipment and think they are good enough.

$10K for 0.05% accuracy out to 1MHz

I suppose some people have the data to back up 0.05% is good enough to measure human hearing. I don’t, but if you post something, you need to back up your claims.

That is sufficiency accuracy for a cable in audio.

Again, a statement without evidence or proof.

Interesting how some can so readily believe in what they search on google. :-)

I never said i couldn't hear the differences in good vs. not so good cables.
Being a guitar player for 47+ years, and a gigging musician, I can definitely hear and FEEL the difference in cables. Especially the difference of long cable runs through passive vs. active pickups.

My post several hours ago about directionality in conductors was removed because I pointed out that a thread from 2010 avoided the issue, and pretty much proved my point with this thread. Don't tell me that my comments were abusive, because the same type of abusive comments have not been removed from other's posts.

The point is the sheer absurd expense of the high end cables and the claims they make with zero technical justification, unlike those made by Blue Jeans Cable. 

I trust your "moronic" comment will be removed, because it's abusive. But....with the fratboy mentality of rules enforcement around here, I highly doubt it.