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Synergistic Research HFT's

Not to open up a can of worms but I am reaching out to people who actually have tried the SR HFT's or Black Box.  I am building a new house and my two channel room is my great room / kitchen.  The dimensions are 20'W x 40'L with 16' cathedral ceilings.  This is not the best 2 channel room but it worked well in my last house.  So the question I have are there any tweaks that I should be considering to improve the overall sound performance?   I know the obvious answer is Acoustical Panels but that won't fly in my house.  I already have all of the Perfect Path Technologies products for my system.  I already have SR Blue Duplex's but might change to the orange.  So now I am looking at what I can do to improve the sound in that kind of room without Acoustical panels.  The rest of my system includes:  Canary Audio Grand Reference 2 mono amps, C1800 Pre-Amp, InaKustic 3500P Conditioner, Lumin X-1 Dac/Streamer.  My cables are all upgrades also.  I have been looking at the SR HFT's and Black Box.  Comments?  
willgolf
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georgehifi
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Photo's say it all below.
Of course you did, and Ted Denney laughed himself stupid all the way to the bank.


I installed a ten-pack of HFTs around the room
https://img.usaudiomart.com/uploads/large/1525136-15b82cb5-synergistic-research-hft-5-pscks.jpg

And, this was after using four Shakti Hallographs
https://www.shakti-innovations.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/hallograph-slide-e1484426476497.png



goose
688 posts
 
I'm one of the biggest skeptics on this kind of stuff.  I heard the demo at RMAF in 2019 and it was impressive.  Bought the HFT's (16) in total.  They made a positive impact on my system.  I previously had some bass traps in the corners and some diffusion but they improved the sound from there (bigger soundstage, openness and better placement of instruments).  Not all tweaks make a difference but these did.  I would have returned them if they didn't work but they did.
jpan
125 posts
 
I'd put it this way: HFTs are better than nothing but they are not acoustical treatments that help with things like early reflections and the like. They help reduce high frequency energy.

How do I know this? I'm living it.
I have a large open floor plan that is a challenge from a logistical and aesthetic perspective. (Okay, WAF and related.)

For this reason I've resisted acoustic treatments and when I found out about HFTs, I thought they seemed like a great alternative

To date, I've deployed the HFTs, the Wide Angle, Speaker Kits and one Black Box. All nice stuff. It all helps. I would characterize the effect as quieting the room. I notice more clarity and space.

But, it's not the same as treating a room acoustically. I had a professional come over and do a room analysis. I already knew this but wanted to prove it with data. It's clear. I have to treat my room/space to the degree I can get away with. That means some permanent treatments and some that can be moved in/out of the room.

Again, I really like HFTs, etc. They did help. And they are very unobtrusive. But, for me, they're not enough.
I'll report back once I get my treatments in place, probably sometime mid-summer.
Hope this helps.
willgolf OP
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JPAN ---you saw the dimensions of my large room that acoustically speaking is God awful.  That said, I too have a wife who even hates the HFT's that I have scattered around.  She thinks they look like bugs and are an eyesore.  I am just curious, what are you hoping to do in your house?  Specifically what treatments and where?
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