Why don't more recordings have soundstage outside of speakers

Ya not contributing to this thread Mr. Mahgister. Why don’t more recordings have soundstage outside of speakers. Ya not answering that. Ya off on a tangent.

I am not a recording engineer...

When i speak about "outside of the speakers" i speak about the DEPTH of the imaging....

The articulation of a soundstage laterally out of the speakers on the left and right with a depth imaging is the exception related to the recording engineer artistry....

Is your room able to reproduce the way the microphones catch the initial event IN HIS OWN WAY is the question to ask...It is always a translation.... My small room is not identical at all to any greater room or even to any other small room ....

Doubting that possibility itself, of a sound which is no more between the speakers only speak about YOUR own room limits or understanding, not mine...

Study Helmholtz.... 😁


His science is not enough to model mathematically the acoustical concept of "timbre" but is more than enough to understand minimally a room acoustic.... The electronical equalizer is after all only an electronical design  which mathematically capture ONLY an aspect of his resonators actions .... But no electronical equalizer seating in a room modify it by the only fact to seat there like the pressure engines called "Helmholtz equalizer" by me or a grid of resonators"....

As I listen my soundstage is 22’ wide. Speakers are 6’ apart. 50% of that 22’ wide soundstage is to the left of my left speaker.  It sounds lovely.  My own little Village Vanguard.  I am grateful. 

@andy2 it’s about mix and (mostly) mastering.

Then of course, the room set up.

Width is not about width ONLY ... width needs a defined MID with distinct L and R SIDES. It’s hard physics.

MC.  Agree totally your comments on vibration and resonance control - my system set up is similar.  Footers and hft's.  Plus diffusion planels at reflection points and resonators,  Schumann type, but most of them actually tuned to the room.   

Interestingly, I found that there is another level of improvement above well thought out springs.  Critical mass systems new footers.  They work on completely different principles from earlier isolation devices.  For both speakers and electronics.  Expensive but effective. Hugely so.  Just saying......

I think I'll just react to the OP's last sentence instead of joining any debate. I think that is what he had in mind.
Rickie Lee Jones - Pirates and Other Side of Desire are both outstanding.
Tim Buckley - Happy Sad (but it's so old it may be hard to find. I only know about the 1969 LP)
Peter Gabriel - So, especially Red Rain. I have actually turned over my left shoulder a few times because I thought I heard something behind me!
I Have noted a few others in my collection with remarkable staging, but the ones above are those I've noted for surprising me with an "out of speaker" experience. 

Thanks to those who shared their favorites. I will follow this thread to see if others do. Thanks @andy2 for starting the thread. I hope we get some good suggestions that we can actually buy.