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Vinyl...should I stay, or should I go?

I've sort of hit a crossroads and have decided to part with my turntable, all accessories which go with the turntable, and my record collection. However, before parting ways with my analog gear I wanted to gather some feedback and make sure I've given vinyl a fair shake.

My setup is a VPI HW-19: a Zorin tonearm and a Dynavector 17dx cartridge, with a Manly Chinook phono-stage, It plays through Primaluna dialogue Pre amp and amps. The speakers are Goldenear Reference. 

Confession, despite this setup, I've mostly streamed Roon music through an ultraRendu into a ModWright oppo 205. It's just recently I decided to give listening to vinyl a try. I'm pretty much a novice to the finer points and nuances of getting the best out of vinyl.

Experience: I'm finding the streaming music seems to be more centered with a deeper and more textured soundstage. When I stream, no matter what era the music is from, the singer/music is front, center, deep and wide. On the other hand, the last couple of records I've tried. A very old and somewhat used Alan Parsons Project lp and Jim Croce, Don't Mess around with Jim 180 gram lp, have not presented the same quality soundstage. In fact, in both cases while much of the music is centered, the singer's voice is coming mostly from the left side (speaker). Also, I'm finding the bass to be lacking. Last night in a side by side comparison, I was taken aback by how much better sounding was the streaming music.

Question: Is this typical of vinyl or is there something in my setup (again I'm a novice) I'm overlooking? With all this said, any advice on what to check or look for would be much appreciated. I'm not trying to start a debate about the merits of vinyl vs. streaming. I'm really just trying to find out if what I'm experiencing is typical of the vinyl experience or if there's something I should be correcting before pulling the plug and selling off the analog gear. Thanks
liv2teach
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rauliruegas
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Dear @live2teach : I think that 400 LPs does not justify the money you have to spend to have good LP sound reproduction. I'm in analog because I own 6K+ LPs.

Now, from the point of view of thecnology analog/lp in true " stop " its development due that this technology achieved its limits several years ago. Is obsolete and can't gives any one a single advantage over today digital alternative.

Additional to that the digital technology every single " day " goes better and better and digital almost has not limits in the short and long times to come.

I'm not against analog and I'm a MUSIC lover but at the same time I'm not " crazy " enough ( for say the least. ) to think or spread false information that today analog is superior when it's not, no matters what.

This is only an opinion.

Regards and enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS,
R.
liv2teach OP
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Wow...great advice here. I’ve read through it all in detail...

I can’t respond to each person individually, but here’s what stuck and some steps I’ll take before pulling the plug...so to speak.

I’ve had two generous offers of help from people on here who live in the area, I’ll be contacting them... Thanks

The Oppo 205 I use as a DAC is not just an Oppo, it’s a Modwright which is a whole different animal...not looking for a debate, just stating a fact.

The Manly Chinook is considered a top of the line phonostage, so I’m not suspecting it.

I believe the problem lies in the setup (overall), the cart, and I’m suspect of the "Zorin" tonearm and possibly the records I chose to listen too. I have better records in my collection, but was hesitant to play them until I had the time to clean them and insure I wasn’t going to do damage by playing them...by the way the Kirmuss mentioned on here looks interesting.

I’m currently selling off a bunch of "stuff" I’ve gathered over the years. It’s just money laying around and filling up closets. When I’m done with the sales and depending on what I find out about my system from those who offered help, I may sell off parts of the record collection "MFSL" and the tt and reinvest the money into a new and improved system.

Thanks again


edcyn
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@jrw1971

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Then, there's the tendency of many contributors to just write, write, write until either the needle has worn a new groove in the lead-out groove, their fingers fall off, or the kitchen stove catches fire.

The cure dear fellow audio-foil?  As you read the forum, keep the stereo cranked and happily obsess over the amount of spit the vocalist on the recording is launching onto his/her mike.
lewm
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I don’t think there is any moral issue here. You should do what you like, and I won’t think any less of you as a human being, either way. Although you said you don’t want to start a debate, your “dilemma” as stated will inevitably lead to one. It’s already in progress. I am like Raul ; I am a vinylista because I own 2500 LPs and five turntables. Not to mention 8 tonearms and maybe 20 cartridges. I just don’t want to be bothered with assembling a digital system of similar quality. Whereas your toe is barely in vinyl waters. Vaya con dios.
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dinov
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I’d look at the cartridge. The two dynavectors I have had were real lean in the bass especially my XX 2 where I would have the bass up several dB on my Mac pre.  I upgraded it to a Koetsu Rosewood Signature, and WOW! I had to turn things way down. What a difference. Try another cartridge or have it looked at and set up by someone who knows. 
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